Need to move to mixing a bit promptly :o(

[Ancient Hermit]

I know this is probably a very big ask, but, nothing ventured.......

I would like to make a replacement for my current favoured vape which is the Caramel from VapeEscape.

Been buying it at 18mg, and then had an accident and ordered 8mg as that is what the web site defaults to, and I had not realised it did this until it arrived. I was left far too low on juice, so had to go with it. It's not been enough of course, but has shown me I might be able to get by with less nic.

Now that is kind of hopeful, of course. However I now need to look at making my own replacement for that juice as it does not come in an intermediate nic level, and so I will be compelled to make my own.

Not sure what mg I want just yet, all I do know is somewhere between probably 20mg and say 12mg, and I have the thought in my head that I should probably make some serious effort to get used to a lower number in that range. To help me there I would like a bit more flavour as that is what seems missing to me the most at the new 8mg level.

I'm seeing 54mg available at VE right now (only the rather more expensive 30ml sadly), and I'm seeing PA English Toffee, also Decadent's Caramel.

I got some VG in the fridge, and could grab some PG too I guess.

My off the top of my head calcs show that 54mg divided by 4 could yield something like 13.5 mg.

Am I at least thinking in the right direction yet? ??? 

I'd like to crack on and place an order this evening if that might be at all possible. Is that likely to be even remotely realistic?

I was not really planning on being here for a month or two more yet, but it seems that events are conspiring to push me forward a bit quicker than I had envisaged. Not a total disaster of course, but could have gone a bit better really! 

[sue1952]

roughly using ejuicemeup calculator to get 13mg juice and using 20% flavour, for each 10ml mix you would need

2.41 ml nic base @ 54mg
1.59 ml pg
4ml vg
2ml flavouring

This is at 60/40 ratio. Hope that helps. LT Ecigs have 100ml 54 mg nic base at £13.76 and delivery is still £3 if that's any help. LT10 for 10% discount and they do flavouring aswell

[Deleted]

Leisure Liquids have most stuff you need to start mixing.

Edit...as a newbie if I'm not allowed to post links please accept my apologies and delete this post.

[Ancient Hermit]

Jul 14, 2013 13:57:35 GMT sue1952 said:

roughly using ejuicemeup calculator to get 13mg juice and using 20% flavour, for each 10ml mix you would need

2.41 ml nic base @ 54mg
1.59 ml pg
4ml vg
2ml flavouring

This is at 60/40 ratio. Hope that helps. LT Ecigs have 100ml 54 mg nic base at £13.76 and delivery is still £3 if that's any help. LT10 for 10% discount and they do flavouring aswell

ok, thanks, so to get VG heavy would I just reverse those two amounts? I just noticed that the Vape54 is supplied as either PG or VG - would that make a difference to the plans too? I'd imagine it must.  ???

[Greigster]

Or you could buy some 18mg Caramel and mix part with the 8mg. to get the strength that you require.......but for the future, mixing your own is the way to go

[dragon]

Don't be scared of mixing, it isn't that complicated once you get the hang of it I don't vape caramel, so I can't advise on which to choose, but different brands of the same flavour can be very different, so be prepared for some disappointments until you find your feet.

Make sure you remember to get bottles to mix in (always need more than you think for experiments) And I find pipettes are the easiest way of measuring nic. I usually drop the actual flavour using 20 drops = 1ml (some say 25 or 30)

For the base (pg/vg) a measuring cylinder is pretty easy, bottles always hold more than they say, so if you want to be exact you will need to measure your base (I don't any more, because a little extra base isn't that big a deal for me )

The maths only gets complicated if you want to go for complicated recipes, keep it simple at the start, I always mix a new flavour on it's own to get to know it, and then mix it with other premixed flavours in the clearo until I figure out what goes with what.

Basically, it all sounds complicated until you start, then you realise it is quite straight forward Because of steeping times and experiments, you need to have a supply of ready to vape for a week or two

[sue1952]

What ratio would you like your finished juice to be ancienthermit? If you buy the vg nic base and n13mg @ 50/50 ratio


2.41 nic base
3ml pg
2.59vg
2ml flavour.

If you wanted all vg I would personally just add the 2 together so 3ml pg + 2.59 vg= 5.59ml vg in total

[fred]

Ancient Hermit Download e-Jucie me up from here

It will calculate all your ratios and flavours and tell you how much of each to add

[digicig]

The simplest way would be to ask for a specific nic content in the comments section at VE's checkout - Grizwald is the juice guru at VE and may well be able to mix to thy exact nic level

Long Term though - DIY is the way forward

[Ancient Hermit]

Jul 14, 2013 14:04:16 GMT Greigster said:

Or you could buy some 18mg Caramel and mix part with the 8mg. to get the strength that you require.......but for the future, mixing your own is the way to go

Yes, that is also on the books for the first instance! Actually intending to get 24mg and make 16mg with that lot. As you say though the future is home made!

[Karma]

Jul 14, 2013 14:02:10 GMT @tall said:

Leisure Liquids have most stuff you need to start mixing.

Edit...as a newbie if I'm not allowed to post links please accept my apologies and delete this post.

No problem at all Tall, posting links 
Leisure liquids are a good vendor!

check for discount codes on this thread

allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/2/cigarette-liquid-vendors-discount-codes?page=1&scrollTo=2

[Ancient Hermit]

Jul 14, 2013 14:30:52 GMT fred said:

Ancient Hermit Download e-Jucie me up from here

It will calculate all your ratios and flavours and tell you how much of each to add

So far it is just confusing me - I am apparently too thick to enter numbers which it does not interpret as negative ones, despite them not having been entered as negative as reality has it. Every time I try to even learn to use it it claims negative numbers no matter what I do.

That does not look like going anywhere but I will keep trying. I guess it must be me. Surely it can't be defective software with so many saying they use it? I have seen one or two folk say it does this to them.

I can't even try running the numbers by for that LT liquids stuff so far. I don't know what a lot of the answers might be here but the liquids come as being like 94.6% PG and say 5.4% Nic. I can't see a place to enter diluents at all so far.

[Ancient Hermit]

Jul 14, 2013 14:11:02 GMT dragon said:

Don't be scared of mixing, it isn't that complicated once you get the hang of it I don't vape caramel, so I can't advise on which to choose, but different brands of the same flavour can be very different, so be prepared for some disappointments until you find your feet.

Make sure you remember to get bottles to mix in (always need more than you think for experiments) And I find pipettes are the easiest way of measuring nic. I usually drop the actual flavour using 20 drops = 1ml (some say 25 or 30)

For the base (pg/vg) a measuring cylinder is pretty easy, bottles always hold more than they say, so if you want to be exact you will need to measure your base (I don't any more, because a little extra base isn't that big a deal for me )

The maths only gets complicated if you want to go for complicated recipes, keep it simple at the start, I always mix a new flavour on it's own to get to know it, and then mix it with other premixed flavours in the clearo until I figure out what goes with what.

Basically, it all sounds complicated until you start, then you realise it is quite straight forward Because of steeping times and experiments, you need to have a supply of ready to vape for a week or two

I am not quite getting the hang of the calculator at present, so unless that changes then it's going to be way too much for me - I'm not that good with maths, algebra I can do but numbers are my Achilles heel for sure. It's sure proving a bit frustrating with that "e-juice me up", that just, well, it just won't!

[sue1952]

Don't forget to alter the top row where it says nic strength ejuice put in either 100% pg or vg. Next line it will ask you target nic strength, you enter 13mg or whatever you are aiming for, next row it will ask you amount to make, enter amount wanted. Next line will ask you the flavour your using , you put in the box the % of flavouring you're using. Further down where it says PG and VG you enter the ratio that you want your mix to be. If it comes as a negative number, you must keep playing with the ratios until you have positives on both PG and VG. Other than that if you want it VG heavy just add the 2 together and omit the PG.

[Ancient Hermit]

Jul 14, 2013 14:11:42 GMT sue1952 said:

What ratio would you like your finished juice to be ancienthermit? If you buy the vg nic base and n13mg @ 50/50 ratio


2.41 nic base
3ml pg
2.59vg
2ml flavour.

If you wanted all vg I would personally just add the 2 together so 3ml pg + 2.59 vg= 5.59ml vg in total

well I a week or two back I had some 24mg that was 50/40 PG/VG and as it was too strong I cut it with VG (liking more vapour and less throat hit) to be equal parts, and it came out pretty damn fine as I saw things! Now that is what tells me 12mg or so could be ok, but it could perhaps stand being a little higher. Was totally fine for a rescue job though!

20 is not too much too strong, no more than that though. 18 is mostly fine, I would imagine 16 to be ok for me about now as well. I don't object to trying to push for the lower nic to work for me as long as I can up the strength of the caramel flavour a bit at the same time, I reckon that could be a winning strategy for me. I have  a sweet tooth which sadly I dare not scratch as I am a diabetic, hence my finding the flavour of caramel to be quite persuasive in making me rather happy with a lower nic content!   It's also why I will not be stopping vaping after I get off the nic!