Parl. Scrutiny Committee on Parl TV + Trialogue Press Conf.

[gibla53]

www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetingId=14480   For the Commons scrutiny committee with Jane Ellison  at 4:30 pm GMT


t.co/lj3RZ4KPHv   For the trialogue press conference at 8pm GMT 

[barrynorton]

First question "is the final trilogue now?"

Stopped short of saying "what's the point in this meeting?"

[kibbster]

Watching the scrutiny video.
Utter bollocks tbh.

There are some MPs there who've listened to us (Especially the one that quoted Robert West.)
Ellisons replies flited between Think of the Children, I don't know and Think of the children.

[kibbster]

It's safe to say Ellison will be no help to us, she's upset that the EU said no to MHRA cash cow med regs.

[Deleted]

Utter garbage Besides that guy that ask about how cosy she was with them and the non smoker woman in white. Kudos to the two of them.

So much for transparency. it was a case of erm now erm er erm, didder some more and erm.

Why are kids mentioned all the time its ludicrous.

[kibbster]

The shadow minister for health is nearly, almost, not quite supportive.
400k E-cig users in the UK (yeah right...)
She wants med regs as she's labour though so she can piss off as well.

More light touch med regs rubbish.
But she wants to make sure E-cigs aren't damaged by med regs, she's really messed up and repeating the MHRA line without realising destruction of the E-cig industry is exactly what med regs would have done and it's a moot point - the EU said no to med regs.
When will they give up and accept the MHRA are going to have to get their cash from elsewhere.

We've got very little support in the UK Gov tbh.
They all bleat on about the children and med regs... don't want to stop e-cigs but med regs will make them safer and better.

Utter tosh.

[jeffc]

I make no apologies for this outburst/rant.

£74,000 salary, complete and utter "FUCKWITS", time to get rid of these deadbeats, champions of waffle & utter tripe, could not organise a `piss up` in a brewery.

Roll on the "014 EU elections for MEP`s, vote out the "dross".

Roll on the Gen Elec in 2015, get rid of the old boys club & elect "REAL" people.

Rant over. Happy Safe vaping everyone.

[kibbster]

Dec 16, 2013 18:46:28 GMT jeffc said:

I make no apologies for this outburst/rant.

£74,000 salary, complete and utter "FUCKWITS", time to get rid of these deadbeats, champions of waffle & utter tripe, could not organise a `piss up` in a brewery.

Roll on the "014 EU elections for MEP`s, vote out the "dross".

Roll on the Gen Elec in 2015, get rid of the old boys club & elect "REAL" people.

Rant over. Happy Safe vaping everyone.

If we get rid of the shit ones will there be enough left to run/ruin the country?

[barrynorton]

Was the trilogue delayed?

[Postmodern Smoking]

barrynorton Think it is due at 9pm GMT (10:00 CET) video.consilium.europa.eu/

ETA] May be wrong!! Seems some confusion over this.

[barrynorton]

Except that it now says:

General Affairs Council - Legislative deliberations
Tuesday, December 17, 2013 at 10.00

[Postmodern Smoking]

Yep... just spotted that too!
... don't know.

[Postmodern Smoking]

barrynorton .... I've just seen a different link that looks more promising ec.europa.eu/avservices/ebs/live.cfm?page=2&sitelang=en
Live - "Last Trialogue on the Tobacco directive - press conference"
Although it's unclear when it is due to start.


[EDIT] *** UPDATE *** Press conference cancelled.

[kibbster]

Yup conference was cancelled.
Rumours are a ban on refillables within two years, but that's not confirmed.
With a lack of official statements no one is sure what's going on.

[kibbster]

It is (almost) official, they seem to have voted to ban refillables within two years.
Still more stages to go through, hopefully someone will stop acting like a dribbling zombie and actually oppose this crap before it does get enshrined in law.