One minor concern?

[deesigner]

I have noticed that by using my ecig I have no idea how much nicotine I'm actually taking in. Although I suppose I don't stand and smoke like I would have done with a full cig, I feel as though I'm puffing more often on the ecig.

I just wondered what affect this could have on someone who returned to smoking after vaping? Would it mean that they'd be heavier smokers than before?

Just a thing that I thought needed looking into if we're fighting for ecigs to be legalised and fully accepted by the medical / health profession.

[Chrissie]

Dee, have a look at the first post in this pinned thread to give you an idea about nicotine strength & how much juice you should be using : -

allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=87

However, a lot of people think we are most likely not absorbing the nicotine in the same we as we did with smoking. If you have a week to spare, check out this thread on ECF - only 212 pages to read

www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/nicotine/44958-so-we-getting-we-not-nicotine.html

[Hanow]

Dee, am also wondering the same thing. Have got so thrilled with my success, I realise that I don't totally appreciate what it is I am doing. I currently am juicing with 35mg - extremely satisfying. However, my real ciggy pack info says: 10mg tar, 0.9mg nicotine, 10mg carbon monoxide. Thus I too am totally blinded with the science of it.

Chrissie, thanks for the response - I shall set a few hours aside to read the document.

But whilst posting - I think I have another potential convert - a dear friend who I have made reference to in other posts. She knows me very well - and we share (in my case 'shared') similar smoking habits. I spoke to her on the phone this morning - her so keen to hear how I was getting on with vaping.

As a result of our conversation, she is going to register with the forum later today. (She has a job interview so couldn't do it immediately.) As I have no idea what board name she may choose to register with, there is little point me saying 'who'. But I have told her that she will get lots of lovely peeps saying hi, providing advice and support - as I have received.

10.30 here now, so almost 48 hours smoking free. How good is that?? (Another jiggly dance)

[Chrissie]

Look forward to meeting your friend Hanow

Talking about nicotine content, this is an interesting fact from the minutes of the e-cig suppliers meeting with the MHRA : -

"It was then revealed that there was in fact no requirement for an NRT to have any nicotine nor indeed any effect. MHRA stated clearly, openly, and repeatedly that it is not necessary for an NRT to supply any nicotine whatsoever (since it is not specified or measured), and that an NRT, even nicotine patches, could be - and indeed currently are - licensed by MHRA even if they do not supply any nicotine to the user, since this is neither measured nor is there any minimum or maximum standard for such devices and thus there is no requirement for them to function in this way."

So that means that there is no control whatsoever about how much nicotine there is in patches, gum etc.

[Hanow]

So sorry Chrissie - but what is NRT?

I warned you that I could be a pain with my questions! Luv-n-hugs. > > > >

[Chrissie]

You aren't being a pain at all Hanow

NRT = Nicotine Replacement Therapy is the term used by drug companies & health bodies, to describe products that contain nicotine & are sold to help people stop smoking.

And for anyone else confused about my other abbreviation - MHRA = Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency.

[jaki]

As I understand it, the e-cigs are less effective at delivering nicotine to the system at speed when compared with a regular cigarette.

So, when vaping, you are getting less nicotine delivered in a less effective way than you would smoking a regular cig. To me this sounds as though if you went back to smoking, the chances are you would smoke less because a cigarette is a more effective nicotine delivery device (I think!)

I gleaned this info from www.healthnz.co.nz/ecig_effect-2.pdf , which was sponsored by an e-cig/juice manufacturer.

PS NRT is Nicotine Replacement Therapy - ie patches, gum inhalers etc

[nana]

When I first used my ecig I was concerned about how much nicotine I was getting so, on day 2, I stopped using nicotine and went on to the zero juice.
Having read that nicotine is out of the system in three days, I figured I'd suffer for three days and then feel fine....

Wrong.......

I felt absolutely awful for 2 - 3 months before I began to feel as good as I do now.
I probably would have been much better to have gradually reduced the nicotine over a period of time.

I have to add that I was and am determined to quit smoking which is why I reduced to zero nic juice, and by the time I realised that this was a mistake, well, I figured I may as well soldier on.

However, I'd never have got this far without the ecig as, even without any nicotine, it has made it possible for me to stay off the tobacco, when previously all else had failed....

Congrats. to Hanow on your 48 hours of success.
And a big welcome in advance to your friend....

[deesigner]

great replies and very interesting. I'm very nosey and need to know everything LOL.

[Scylla]

From personal experience - I vape quite high mg juices and I chain-vape, but amazingly I don't have to grab my e-cig first thing in the morning and I often forget about it if I'm cooking or similarly occupied. If I'd been smoking I'd never have gone without for as long as I do now, so I don't think that the nicotine in juices is so well absorbed or as addictive as that in tobacco.

I think that the reasons I chain-vape are (1) the pure pleasure of the feeling of a good drag, and (2) repeated efforts to achieve that good drag

scylla

[knawes]

Hi Scylla,

I posted my update after returning from my week away, then started catching up on other threads - your experience above is just so ME!

And by golly I think I've cracked it! I am smoking 36mg, but as per my previous post, I took the filler out, filled the cartridge with juice, put the filler back in, what a difference!

I'm also standing the Riva on it's big end in between puffs, and letting it cool a little longer in between puffs, which is working ok as I'm getting lots of throat hits and vapour, far more than when I was away. I've not had a normal cig for 2 hours now which is unheard of. But I am also chain-vaping and love it!

I currently have 25 Richmond kingsize sat next to me.....watch this space for how long they last me!

Love to all, and thanks.

Kath

[Scylla]

Jun 26, 2010 23:10:52 GMT knawes said:

I took the filler out, filled the cartridge with juice, put the filler back in, what a difference!

I'm sure this method could have saved me a lot of flooded atties and I'm going to try it (don't ask me why I haven't before - out of the mouth of babes... ).

I've responded to your other post

I'm sure the HTML will be glad to see you back I wonder if any of the regulars there need a nudge towards e-cigs?

scylla x