First time mixer with a couple of Qs

[sloppyvape]

Going to be giving mixing a try for the first time as LF has a 29% off code this weekend and i thought its perfect to get those supplies in now.I have a load of ready made concentrates from bumble bee(around 11) and wish to make them all up as if i dont like them "flavor wise"i can give them to my bro inlaw.

My prefered mix is mainly 70 vg 30 pg or 80-20 only due to the PG in large amounts gives me rashes ect so 50/50 mixes is my base point.I have a couple of 100ml bottles of pg so that side is sorted so i just need to get(nic base pg)and vg bottles but is there anythink else i will need like sweetners ect as these are premade concentrates im using ?
Also im going to use 50ml bottles with a 20% flavoring so i use the whole 10ml of concentrate up in one go ... is that wise ? or not.

Nicotine Base Liquid 52mg
(100/0 PG/VG) drops/ml 5.77 ml
PG (Propylene Glycol)
drops/ml 3.23
VG (Vegetable Glycerine)
drops/ml 31
T Juice single flavour "example"
(0/0 PG/VG) drops/ml 10

Result: 6mg Nicotine (20/80 PG/VG) 50ml

the concentrate does say it has pg in along with the flavoring but no % given.

Any tips or tricks i need are welcome

[sue1952]

Hi there sloppyvape have you had a look at the mixing calculator? tis pretty good . I personally would work in mls rather than drops. You would be surprised at the different sizes of drops you get from different bottles. I would also do a couple of 5ml testers first before you make a bigger quantity. You may want to tweak the 5ml samplers until you have what suits you. My first stop would be the .mixing calculator though at the top of the page

[lairey]

OK, if you prefer a VG heavy mix, I would suggest getting VG nic base as opposed to PG. You need to assume your concentrates are 100% PG, so for an 20PG/80VG mix you wouldn't need to add any PG, just 20% flavouring and VG nic base and VG.

If you haven't got your VG yet, Boots/Superdrug/Chemist is the cheapest option, just ask for glycerin, you should find it with the cough mixtures.

If you're sure they won't go to waste if you don't like them, then no reason not to mix all 50ml in one go, but it leaves you little room to tweak to your taste.

Sweetener is a good additive, as is koolada if you like fruity type flavours and vanillin if you like creamy/dessert flavours

HTH

[iLardyboy]

T-Juice concentrates are 100% PG, therefore if you are wanting to use 20% flavouring and have a mix of 20/80 PG/VG you won't need to add any PG to your mix. You would also need to use VG nic base and not PG. Classikool on ebay sell cheap and good VG, here's a link:

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/170888404720?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&var=470303816100&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[sloppyvape]

Nov 19, 2014 19:35:49 GMT sue1952 said:

Hi there sloppyvape have you had a look at the mixing calculator? tis pretty good . I personally would work in mls rather than drops. You would be surprised at the different sizes of drops you get from different bottles. I would also do a couple of 5ml testers first before you make a bigger quantity. You may want to tweak the 5ml samplers until you have what suits you. My first stop would be the .mixing calculator though at the top of the page

thanks sue im using the calc from the top of the page as ive took out the drops totals for making up 50ml,totals there are in ml.

and damn you guys are quick lol

[Postmodern Smoking]

Hi sloppyvape, I agree with sue1952 it's wise to make up some smaller amounts first rather than jump in at 50ml. Once you're happy with the mix, then by all means scale up.
For mixing calculator purposes your concentrates will be in a PG carrier unless stated otherwise. Sweeteners are something of a personal taste and you'll probably find that it depends on the individual flavour that you're mixing and your personal taste. Also as lairey says you're probably best to get some VG nicotine base rather than PG nicotine base, as you're going VG heavy.

Best of luck with your mixing adventures

[sloppyvape]

Nov 19, 2014 19:37:04 GMT lairey said:

OK, if you prefer a VG heavy mix, I would suggest getting VG nic base as opposed to PG. You need to assume your concentrates are 100% PG, so for an 20PG/80VG mix you wouldn't need to add any PG, just 20% flavouring and VG nic base and VG.

If you haven't got your VG yet, Boots/Superdrug/Chemist is the cheapest option, just ask for glycerin, you should find it with the cough mixtures.

If you're sure they won't go to waste if you don't like them, then no reason not to mix all 50ml in one go, but it leaves you little room to tweak to your taste.

Sweetener is a good additive, as is koolada if you like fruity type flavours and vanillin if you like creamy/dessert flavours

HTH

thanks lairey and lardyboy point taken in on the pg/concentrate .ill use vg nic base instead then.

your right about the tweeking if the flavor isnt right maybe ill put in the calc to do 49ml giving me room for koolada and sweetner maybe ?

and damn that VG is cheap ill be getting mine from there i think

[sloppyvape]

lol just noticed that LBf dont sell 50ml bottles but ive found this  www.amazon.co.uk/Plastic-Squeezable-Dropper-Filling-Bottles/dp/B00LP9F0LE
anyone beat that price ?

and i think ill go for this just to be safe : www.ebay.co.uk/itm/170888404720?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&var=470303816100&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&clk_rvr_id=733877531399

ill go for the 48-49 ml total then the brother in law can add some more nic to his likeing . would that work or would i still get caught out somewhere ?

[iLardyboy]

Bottles here mate if you can wait:

www.fasttech.com/products/3021/10007146/1614901-empty-dropper-bottles-for-e-liquids-5-pack-50ml

[sue1952]

sloppyvape I always get my vg from Boots as do a lot of other members of the forum. You just want a bottle of glycerine £1.29 for 200 or maybe 250mls. Find it next to the cough mixture...............save you lots of money. £2.58 for 500 mls as opposed to nearly £4.59 from fleabay ...........Sue

[lairey]

Nov 19, 2014 20:13:03 GMT sloppyvape said:

lol just noticed that LBf dont sell 50ml bottles but ive found this  www.amazon.co.uk/Plastic-Squeezable-Dropper-Filling-Bottles/dp/B00LP9F0LE
anyone beat that price ?

and i think ill go for this just to be safe : www.ebay.co.uk/itm/170888404720?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&var=470303816100&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&clk_rvr_id=733877531399

ill go for the 48-49 ml total then the brother in law can add some more nic to his likeing . would that work or would i still get caught out somewhere ?

not quite as cheap as Boots, but if you get through VG at anything like the rate I do, and can't be bothered going into town every time you get through 200ml, then a litre here for £7 delivered is your best bet sloppyvape

[sloppyvape]

thanks lardy but ill give fastech a miss as id like it befor xmas lol

[sloppyvape]

Nov 19, 2014 20:33:14 GMT lairey said:

Nov 19, 2014 20:13:03 GMT sloppyvape said:

lol just noticed that LBf dont sell 50ml bottles but ive found this  www.amazon.co.uk/Plastic-Squeezable-Dropper-Filling-Bottles/dp/B00LP9F0LE
anyone beat that price ?

and i think ill go for this just to be safe : www.ebay.co.uk/itm/170888404720?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&var=470303816100&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&clk_rvr_id=733877531399

ill go for the 48-49 ml total then the brother in law can add some more nic to his likeing . would that work or would i still get caught out somewhere ?

not quite as cheap as Boots, but if you get through VG at anything like the rate I do, and can't be bothered going into town every time you get through 200ml, then a litre here for £7 delivered is your best bet sloppyvape

oh wow thats some major mixing there lol ....and you get through it all gob smacked

problem with me is ive alot of faverite ready made juices out there also and a load of it is still around me in the room,so itll be nice to kick the trend and do some mixing on the side to see if anythink else pops up which will work out cheaper.But ill always have to have my favs around like gorilla juice by ave or swagger and jamaican me crazy from pink spot along with bacco b from bombies,el toro eden from house of liquids, pure classic juices.

[lairey]

Nov 19, 2014 20:45:33 GMT sloppyvape said:

Nov 19, 2014 20:33:14 GMT lairey said:

not quite as cheap as Boots, but if you get through VG at anything like the rate I do, and can't be bothered going into town every time you get through 200ml, then a litre here for £7 delivered is your best bet sloppyvape

oh wow thats some major mixing there lol ....and you get through it all gob smacked

problem with me is ive alot of faverite ready made juices out there also and a load of it is still around me in the room,so itll be nice to kick the trend and do some mixing on the side to see if anythink else pops up which will work out cheaper.But ill always have to have my favs around like gorilla juice by ave or swagger and jamaican me crazy from pink spot along with bacco b from bombies,el toro eden from house of liquids, pure classic juices.

I do mix for myself, Mr Lairey and 5 friends, so yeah, get through a lot 
You do know you can get the Pink Spot concentrates from Chefs don't you?

[sue1952]

and don't forget the discount code for Chef's