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Post by MrDJ on May 27, 2015 18:54:04 GMT
we still have 1 smoking / vapeing shelter on the outskirts of the hospital and rumour's have it that it will be removed soon
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 19:03:31 GMT
Treliske royal cornwall hospital has bloody great big NO SMOKING flags and signs posted everywhere, but people still smoke/vape outside with not much hassle. All you have to do is look at the ground and its littered with dog ends ! The only place they get pissssssy is in the bus shelters. I think its really sad seeing sick people outside with tubes up their noses, oxygen and drips, puffing away. Have always had two minds about it, one if you're gonna die and you love a smoke, good luck to you, and the other is if you're that messed up why are you still smoking ?!
It's a hot potato
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Post by MrDJ on May 27, 2015 19:13:32 GMT
sure is a hot potato mate.
a few years back they installed smoke voice detectors in all the places where patients went for a cig and the worst place was the main entrance. within a few days chewing gum had been stuck all over the sensor so no siren going off every 5 minutes with a voice warning of please do not smoke in this area. it is against the law yada yada yada.
they then took on 2 smoking police who patrolled the grounds but after the backlash of wasting money and the press being informed they got rid of them.
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Post by Get Off My Cloud on May 27, 2015 19:40:47 GMT
I think it would be nice if administrators would be honest for once and stop pretending the anti smoking measures are for health reasons. I guarantee if you dig down enough you'll find it's for the usual reason rules are implemented, money. Lets face facts smoking is an addictive habit nobody is going to not smoke because the hospital puts up signs saying no smoking on the grounds, those that give the slightest stuff will just walk to the grounds entrance and smoke just outside the rest will just carry on smoking on the grounds and ignore the signs. I think it's a far more immediate impact on patients health to make them go outside in the cold and rain than them continuing to carry on with a habit they've most likely already had for years. They're going to smoke no matter what so to me on health grounds it makes far more sense to provide an indoor area where they can do it with an air extraction system than to force them into walking off site which in itself could aggravate a health condition that they have or hinder recovery and to make them stand about outside in the cold.
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Post by Ripshod on May 27, 2015 19:55:12 GMT
I'd vape around there. My defence would be 'I don't smoke, I vape an APV'. Purely, by definition, it isn't smoking.
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Post by Richard46 on May 27, 2015 20:01:45 GMT
What they going to do? Arrest you for vaping?
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Post by igual on May 27, 2015 20:15:39 GMT
I had this discussion with a gorilla ( security staff ) at local hospital last week. I was on time for appointment but they were over an hour behind so buggered of for a coffee. Was sat a good 100 ft from outpatients entrance when this gorilla turned up yelling you cannot smoke here etc. I pointed out politely I was not smoking, ( well you cannot use e cigarette as they look like cigarette) at which point I showed him the sigelie 100w+ ( gorilla looked very confused and said but you were smoking I saw it ) I took a pull on subtank even more confused look appeared and he lurched off.
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Post by Richard46 on May 27, 2015 20:23:32 GMT
I had this discussion with a gorilla ( security staff ) at local hospital last week. I was on time for appointment but they were over an hour behind so buggered of for a coffee. Was sat a good 100 ft from outpatients entrance when this gorilla turned up yelling you cannot smoke here etc. I pointed out politely I was not smoking, ( well you cannot use e cigarette as they look like cigarette) at which point I showed him the sigelie 100w+ ( gorilla looked very confused and said but you were smoking I saw it ) I took a pull on subtank even more confused look appeared and he lurched off. Thing is what was he going to do if you where smoking? Shout louder? These hospital ground rules are just a bluff. (SO long as you are not on the staff obviously).
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 20:34:17 GMT
I had this discussion with a gorilla ( security staff ) at local hospital last week. I was on time for appointment but they were over an hour behind so buggered of for a coffee. Was sat a good 100 ft from outpatients entrance when this gorilla turned up yelling you cannot smoke here etc. I pointed out politely I was not smoking, ( well you cannot use e cigarette as they look like cigarette) at which point I showed him the sigelie 100w+ ( gorilla looked very confused and said but you were smoking I saw it ) I took a pull on subtank even more confused look appeared and he lurched off. Thing is what was he going to do if you where smoking? Shout louder? These hospital ground rules are just a bluff. (SO long as you are not on the staff obviously). Exactly! Vape on is what I'd say. Yeah gorilla's can grunt but they can do na na nana zilch legally... Let 'em grunt is what I say and go armed with a personal electronic nicotine inhalation system. Just beware - it could set off their inferiority complex! Viagra needs to up it's sales too LOL
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Post by Richard46 on May 27, 2015 20:41:46 GMT
To be honest I always vape with consideration for others e.g. I would not vape around a Hospital entrance but if I have found a spot where it affects no one else no one is going to stop me having a draw.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 20:45:00 GMT
Richard46 what I don't get is the disapproving looks from passers by even when you do this . Does nothing but set off paranoia for me - though always smile back at them. I don't vape in bus shelters for this very reason (reason you just stated) unless am the only one in said shelter
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Post by MrDJ on May 27, 2015 21:00:42 GMT
the annoying thing is that psychy patients are exempt from the rule as they could turn nasty.
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Post by monty on May 27, 2015 21:20:48 GMT
Give somebody the power to curb peoples freedom and they'll abuse it. Give somebody the authority to enforce those curbs and they'll do it with alacrity. Sadly the UK is very poor in this respect.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 21:25:53 GMT
the annoying thing is that psychy patients are exempt from the rule as they could turn nasty. Doesn't bother ME, I'm a penguin
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Post by Get Off My Cloud on May 27, 2015 21:32:33 GMT
the annoying thing is that psychy patients are exempt from the rule as they could turn nasty. Doesn't bother ME, I'm a penguin
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