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Post by banditruss on Jun 14, 2015 9:33:40 GMT
all ill be running a smoke gct tank and possible subtank ni200 .2 ohm original coils any ideas as to which size wire i will need to use to to replace to get to standard ? ...thinking about might try the lemo 2 and orchid 3, fogger 4 as well ....help!!!! dont want to order ones i wont really need but no clue as which i will lol as you can tell first foray into temp control ...also whats the difference between the tempered and annealed ? cheers for help
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Post by VapingBad on Jun 14, 2015 10:25:34 GMT
The only one of those tanks I have used is the Orchid and I settled on triple twisted 34 AWG 0.16 mm and get a pretty big coil, I would have preferred just double twisted for a smaller coil but the terminals cut it too easily. In general you will need 0.2 or 0.25 mm for dual coils, lots of people use thicker wire for single coils, but I just twist 0.2 mm.
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Post by xs2man on Jun 14, 2015 10:28:52 GMT
Excellent. I was also wondering what size to get. 0.2 it is. I'm forever twisting coils, so that isn't a problem. I had a go at a calculator to see what size would be best, but I must not have worked it right as it said I needed 300 turns or something.
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Post by VapingBad on Jun 14, 2015 10:33:06 GMT
I would wait until this evening and see what works for other people before ordering xs2man
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Post by xs2man on Jun 14, 2015 10:35:13 GMT
Yes. Well nothing will get posted until tomorrow anyway, so might as well. I was thinking probably around 0.25 anyway, but glad someone else asked the question first.
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Post by banditruss on Jun 14, 2015 10:35:45 GMT
thx guys
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Post by letsavit on Jun 15, 2015 12:24:36 GMT
Excellent. I was also wondering what size to get. 0.2 it is. I'm forever twisting coils, so that isn't a problem. I had a go at a calculator to see what size would be best, but I must not have worked it right as it said I needed 300 turns or something. .2 is the all rounder if you twist, duel coils 5-8 wraps , twisted single 5-8 wraps, all should be range and above .1
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Post by gm111 on Jun 15, 2015 14:08:27 GMT
In my nickle occ coils for kanger I get about 0.08 ohm with 11 wraps of 26g ni200 I'd say to get .15-.2 you should get 30g probably but I'd wait for confirmation on that just trying to work it out on steam engine for my coils to figure out what the leg length is, think I'll take one apart now and measure the legs
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Post by gm111 on Jun 15, 2015 14:43:00 GMT
Right I'm wrapping around a 3mm screw driver - one legs is 11mm the other is 13mm so say 12mm, according to steam engine my coils should be coming out at .11 so I'll get some more info for you in a moment banditruss. I've got four coils by here I made this morning, on my mod they come out at 1 - 0.11 2 - 0.12 3 - 0.11 4 - 0.10 And the one I made last night in my tank is .09 now
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Post by gm111 on Jun 15, 2015 14:49:31 GMT
Right so working it out now,you would need 30 gage ni200 too get as close to .2 as you could, 8/9 wraps around something 3mm according to steam engine, hope this helps banditruss
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Post by banditruss on Jun 15, 2015 14:54:32 GMT
thats a great help thx because i was think 28 gauge and couldn't work out steam engine ...this is all prep for when i get the ni heads ..but i like to know where im going it seems the occ heads are hardest to work out thanks for your hard work in helping much appreciated ill be useing the subtank and really the smoke gct tank ..thats another to work out ! but sure ive seen something on net for that thanks again russ
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Post by gm111 on Jun 15, 2015 15:07:32 GMT
thats a great help thx because i was think 28 gauge and couldn't work out steam engine ...this is all prep for when i get the ni heads ..but i like to know where im going it seems the occ heads are hardest to work out thanks for your hard work in helping much appreciated ill be useing the subtank and really the smoke gct tank ..thats another to work out ! but sure ive seen something on net for that thanks again russ 32 gauge would get you .2 with 5 wraps also. 28 gauge would be 14 wraps, all this is around a 3mm bit so you could alter what your wrapping it around and it would change the ohms slightly, I just make mine with standard occ heads so if you've got a load hanging about you could just get some ni200 and give them a shot
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Post by banditruss on Jun 15, 2015 15:14:01 GMT
great does the center size alter the ohms lower if using a 2.5mm or higher ?
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Post by gm111 on Jun 15, 2015 15:18:13 GMT
If this helps as well I take my heads off with two size 11 spanners so much easier than pliers which I find always slip and scratch them.
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Post by gm111 on Jun 15, 2015 15:23:03 GMT
great does the center size alter the ohms lower if using a 2.5mm or higher ? If using a 2.5mm bit the ohms would be lower so with 30g you would need 10 wraps to achieve .2
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