Dangerous champix (they charge for your suicide)

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Yes if you've found this via google check the side effects? It really could happen. Unlike vaping....

So spend a while on this site and check us out

It just proves PH and Big Pharma are not really interested in our health - just our money!!!

[sydsut]

Jul 26, 2015 16:14:05 GMT @johanino said:

www.pharmacy2u.co.uk/champix.html?utm_source=promo-email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=POD_15_07_chmpx&dm_i=2CE1,BOQQ,4Z09E,R11M,1

Yes if you've found this via google check the side effects? It really could happen. Unlike vaping....

So spend a while on this site and check us out

It just proves PH and Big Pharma are not really interested in our health - just our money!!!

Has it ever been anything but?

[Grandad]

I tried stopping the stinkies about 2 years ago and was given champix tablets at first all ok no side effects but was still smoking the same amount 2 weeks in.

Then everything changed found I was very short tempered, feeling like rubbish then the nightmares started I went back to the docs and explained the way I was feeling to be told stick with it.

I came off them a few days later and things started to calm down took about a week before I started to feel normal again.

So my experience is NEVER again would I take them.

I started vaping in February last year haven't took a single draw on a smoke since still vape and love it and not a single side effect.

[Deleted]

If you think champix is bad try ziban which is the other one they used to prescribe . Put me in hospital for 5 days with hives on every part of my body.

[Chrissie]

I've always found it so flipping ironic that there are governing bodies that want to ban e-cigs as they haven't been proved to be 100% safe. Yet they allow the drug companies to push such harmful drugs

Just about every drug (especially prescription ones) have some very serious side effects. But on the other hand, e-cigs have virtually no side effects - they certainly haven't made anyone suicidal or homicidal as Champix has.

[Raffles]

Chrissie... is it any wonder when we are governed by 'people' like this...

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33649258

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33667676

Could go on, but it's getting late, and I'm past my 4th 'sherbert' (another thread) but just wanted to make the point, that a lot of our 'peers' (of whatever persuasion), and whether in the UK or the EU pig's trough, are self serving ***** that govern by what they put in their pockets. Not all, and all strength to those that fight for the majority of hard working people.

Despairing times. 

[Chrissie]

I agree Raffles & as you say, it's no matter what persuasion they are

Slightly off topic, but for instance, I was diagnosed with brittle bone disease a couple of years ago & prescribed Alendronic Acid tablets - one of the side effects of them (though stated as rare) is that they can cause your femur (thigh bone) to fracture -

www.drug-injury.com/druginjurycom/2009/03/bisphosphonates-atypical-stress-fractures--bisphosphonates-alendronic-acid-osteoporosis-pagets-disease-atypicalstress.html

Er hello drug companies, this drug is supposed to help prevent my bones from breaking, so surely the last side effect I, or anyone else wants, is that it can cause the largest bone in the body to break

[Dave]

Jul 26, 2015 19:32:01 GMT Grandad said:

I tried stopping the stinkies about 2 years ago and was given champix tablets at first all ok no side effects but was still smoking the same amount 2 weeks in.

Then everything changed found I was very short tempered, feeling like rubbish then the nightmares started I went back to the docs and explained the way I was feeling to be told stick with it.

I came off them a few days later and things started to calm down took about a week before I started to feel normal again.

So my experience is NEVER again would I take them.

I started vaping in February last year haven't took a single draw on a smoke since still vape and love it and not a single side effect.

Yep been there, done that

I was so bad my wife went to the shop, bought me some tobacco and binned the champix

I'm a naturally calm, chilled and well mannered person but I was turning into someone she didn't recognise 

If I get stressed now she directs me to the classies on here, small cost but I'm calmer after I've logged into paypal 

[sydsut]

A number of modern anti-depressants have the side effect of giving you suicidal and morbid thoughts !!!

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Jul 26, 2015 21:45:53 GMT Dave said:

Jul 26, 2015 19:32:01 GMT Grandad said:

I tried stopping the stinkies about 2 years ago and was given champix tablets at first all ok no side effects but was still smoking the same amount 2 weeks in.

Then everything changed found I was very short tempered, feeling like rubbish then the nightmares started I went back to the docs and explained the way I was feeling to be told stick with it.

I came off them a few days later and things started to calm down took about a week before I started to feel normal again.

So my experience is NEVER again would I take them.

I started vaping in February last year haven't took a single draw on a smoke since still vape and love it and not a single side effect.

Yep been there, done that

I was so bad my wife went to the shop, bought me some tobacco and binned the champix

I'm a naturally calm, chilled and well mannered person but I was turning into someone she didn't recognise 

If I get stressed now she directs me to the classies on here, small cost but I'm calmer after I've logged into paypal 

and nicotine usually work for me Dave

[digiw0rx]

I suffer with "manic depressive order" and was given champix to try and quit before, they completely nulled out my medication and sent me so downward it was horrible! I ended up breaking down in the middle of work and having to be sent home. I wasn't warned about this side effect when I was given them, and really with what I suffer with I should never of been given them in the first place.

[Deleted]

Fortunately the medics have always point blank refused to give me champix or zyban . Tried NRT 4 years ago and longer. Found it wasn't strong enough and I'd get so ill (mentally) in 20 hours or less medics would tell me to get back on the stinkies

That's one of the fab things about vaping you not the medics are in control

[robby]

Jul 26, 2015 19:32:01 GMT Grandad said:

I tried stopping the stinkies about 2 years ago and was given champix tablets at first all ok no side effects but was still smoking the same amount 2 weeks in.

Then everything changed found I was very short tempered, feeling like rubbish then the nightmares started I went back to the docs and explained the way I was feeling to be told stick with it.

I came off them a few days later and things started to calm down took about a week before I started to feel normal again.

So my experience is NEVER again would I take them.

I started vaping in February last year haven't took a single draw on a smoke since still vape and love it and not a single side effect.

That was my sons experience as well, it`s more common than people realise

[lobeydosser]

We are all different and what is a "marvellous drug" for some, will be a nightmare for others.

I have had Champix, Zyban and everything in between and ALL of them WORKED!

All of them stopped me smoking for varying degrees of weeks, months, etc.
The trouble was that all of them would not keep me stopped.
Even the Gum that kept me away from ciggies for 18 months, eventually failed and I was back on the merry-go-round.

Only Vaping has been a success. Over 3 years now and still enjoying it.

As for Medicines that "make you better". Well the chemists are hardy going to promote that, are they????
It is their job to sell you medicines, not cut their own throats by making you better!

[tomj777]

Nasty nasty drug.

Alas, Champix / Varenicline has the best 52 week success rate as well as the worst side effects

• 31% with specialist group behavioural support
• 24% with specialist individual behavioural support
• 19% with specialist drop-in behavioural support

Source: Page 3 of this SmokingInEngland document (key sources are from 2011 and 2005)

What sickens me is that, whilst in the US it has the highest black (?triangle?) warning level, in the UK I believe that it only has small print on the little white leaflet that comes with the tablets relating to patients who've had past suicidal idealisation and a bullet point under uncommon side effects "Feeling of panic, difficulty thinking, restlessness, mood swings, depression, anxiety, hallucinations, changes in sex drive".... Justification for this as opposed to Lamotrigine (a mood stabiliser/ anti epileptic drug that I take) which is black labelled (UK's highest warning label) for Steve Johnson's Syndrome (toxic epidermal necrolysis): is that putting a warning label on the box would discourage people from taking it (FFS!)

Incidentally there's a change.org petition ongoing in Australia which is in need of signatures.
www.change.org/p/pfizer-stop-ignoring-our-loved-ones-deaths-urgently-put-on-the-box-warning-labels-on-anti-smoking-drug-champix