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Post by phatfil on Aug 18, 2015 11:29:48 GMT
lots of different terms for ghosting ip masquerading etc..... all basically the same idea u just hide or obscure your ip address and adopt a false one for public display which then routes the traffic/messages back to your actual real ip/puter.. dont pay for it.. thats silly like buying tap water from tesco, make a strong pot of coffee line up an atty full of juice on a well charged mod and have a google session one evening..
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Post by toots on Aug 18, 2015 12:46:49 GMT
You can try out Cyberghost and indeed keep using it for free. Cheers downloaded it and am currently connected via somewhere in Manchester UK now I'm just gonna go & take a peek at a UK bingo site, just to see if this really works haha. Edit: Bloomin 'eck it really does work. Not one UK bingo site was blocked and I tried loads of 'em. Mind you I wouldn't be able to register with a Tenerife address but at least I know now I will not be blocked from AAEC in the future
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Post by sydsut on Aug 18, 2015 13:25:45 GMT
You can try out Cyberghost and indeed keep using it for free. Cheers downloaded it and am currently connected via somewhere in Manchester UK now I'm just gonna go & take a peek at a UK bingo site, just to see if this really works haha. Edit: Bloomin 'eck it really does work. Not one UK bingo site was blocked and I tried loads of 'em. Mind you I wouldn't be able to register with a Tenerife address but at least I know now I will not be blocked from AAEC in the future Glad you like it toots , I've been using it for over a year now with no problem.
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Post by toots on Aug 18, 2015 13:57:32 GMT
Ok, a Spanish press release by 2 Spanish vaping organisations I've roughly translated to English: PRESS RELEASE
ANESVAP and UPEV consider the draft of the Ministry of Health for the transposition of the European Directive on smoking products mean the annihilation of the sector and to the best remedy against smoking in Spain UPEV and ANESVAP consider that a literal transposition of the directive would be enough of a necessary evil and inevitable in order to maintain homogeneity in the transposition with respect to the other member states. However, the surreal additional assumptions introduced by the Ministry of Health involve the annihilation of the best remedy against smoking that has existed with all the independent sectors of the electronic cigarette. These assumptions introduce a huge unfairness, large tobacco and pharmaceutical industries address these assumptions but problems remain with device diversity and quality e-liquid, which are precisely the key to stopping smoking. In addition, the entry of Pharmacy as a selling point is a clear contradiction to the stance that the Ministry of Health has been advocating to date. Since the product CAN NOT BE OFFERED AS A METHOD AGAINST Smoking According to its own arguments. Madrid, 13 August 2015 - UPEV, the Union of Developers and Entrepreneurs and vaping ANESVAP, the Spanish National Association of Personal Vaporizers have expressed its profound disagreement with the draft Royal Decree transposing European Directive and therefore present strong opposition in the appropriate channels. The European directive clearly identifies the electronic cigarette as a different category from the conventional smoking product and, therefore should be transposed literally preventing differences between countries occuring because it is precisely the homogeneity between members what they should seek to Community provision states. However, the draft bill of the Ministry of Health introduces new economic and administrative requirement systems that can in no case be met by SMEs. They are already operating in a market more precarious. These requirements are quite overextended and none of the associations comprising motivation, since it is the most stringent and restrictive assumptions in the world, there is absolutely no endorsed scientific argument, being even higher than those required of smoking. To apply this rule, the few physical stores & online shops that remain in the informal sector may cope with economic rates and required administrative assumptions but they may fall into disappearance, when large numbers of them had achieved survival by relying on a professional service and the transition from the physical shops to electronic commerce. Furthermore, the distribution of existing physical stores preclude the acquisition of products by users. The new laws will cause an insurmountable inequality, both in relation to other countries and among those involved in the industry itself, completely leaving the niche market at the mercy of powerful new actors; tobacco and curiously now pharmaceutical as well. Both ANESVAP as UPEV consider that the adoption of this draft, would be total annihilation in our country of the greatest remedy against smoking that has ever existed since the effectiveness of these devices depends on quitting directly by the user having easily a wide variety of products and systems that suit their level and type of addiction, and one that can only provide a healthy market, quality, dynamic and unfettered development and innovation. The application of this draft will mean the loss of thousands of lives by forcing thousands of vapors back to consuming lethal smoking activity. About UPEVUPEV, Union of Developers and Entrepreneurs vaping includes both users like personalities and public health professionals committed to the promotion and defense of ecigs, as well as companies and distributors in the legitimate sector of vaping. They advocate the use of these devices as a tool of public health being an association more involved in reducing smoking damage to the country. About ANESVAPThe Spanish National Association of Personal Vaporizers (ANESVAP) is an organization created to defend the right of every adult person to use Personal vaporizers. The association aims to disseminate truthful information about vaporizers and their proper use; analyze and disseminate the different studies published around the personal vaporizer, especially in view of their public potential health and ensure proper marketing of products for the vapor, pursuant and established by the rules that apply for labeling, packaging and distribution and ensure that defending the free market interest groups put their economic benefits to the clear advantages that this system brings to public health, for their reduction of potential damage against smoking. Edit: here is the link to the actual Spanish version: drive.google.com/file/d/0BxnIz2-FkwKPU2tVOHRsdkJlYUE/view
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Post by manonabus on Aug 18, 2015 18:44:32 GMT
What a change of events that will be, smuggling into Spain rather than from. I can see an opening here for a small business venture.
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Post by MrDJ on Aug 18, 2015 19:18:49 GMT
You can try out Cyberghost and indeed keep using it for free. i keep meaning to try this out but i have one question to ask sydsutim on BT Infinity at roughly 54mbps. will this affect the speed in any way as it has a fixed IP address. thanks jim
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Post by sydsut on Aug 18, 2015 21:06:42 GMT
You can try out Cyberghost and indeed keep using it for free. i keep meaning to try this out but i have one question to ask sydsutim on BT Infinity at roughly 54mbps. will this affect the speed in any way as it has a fixed IP address. thanks jim I don't know as I only use it to access sites my ISP, Virgin has blocked like The Pirate Bay, Kickass etc. But you don't need to have it enabled all the time, just when it's needed. Install it and try it out and if you don't like it you can always uninstall.
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Post by a1laserboy on Aug 18, 2015 21:09:19 GMT
I use HMA pro - it costs but has about 50,000 servers all over the world, it's easy to use and sends all data from your computer via the vpn. And you can use the same account on your phone - even on mobile data. www.hidemyass.comThe tor browser also allows access to restricted sites without a vpn, but it's slow. I don't see much of a slowdown on any of my data connections with it. edit - [with hma]
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Post by snow on Aug 18, 2015 21:21:00 GMT
I use AirVPN costs me around £5 a month pay as you go, I get very little loss of speed either up or down and I'm on BT Infinity MrDJ I ran a speed test on the weekend and was very pleased with the results.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2015 22:33:24 GMT
I use HMA pro - it costs but has about 50,000 servers all over the world, it's easy to use and sends all data from your computer via the vpn. And you can use the same account on your phone - even on mobile data. www.hidemyass.comThe tor browser also allows access to restricted sites without a vpn, but it's slow. I don't see much of a slowdown on any of my data connections with it. edit - [with hma] +1 for HMA...i was using for years ,very good speed ,easy to work with , no special configuration ....work with both linux and windows ....is practically undetectable , 100% secure ....chineese ,arabs people can use also to hide they're butt ... right now they offer 12 month subscription for only 4,99$ per month
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Post by MrDJ on Aug 19, 2015 6:38:49 GMT
thanks all, will check them all out tonight.
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Post by buggritt on Aug 19, 2015 6:42:20 GMT
One mad statement by the Spanish government and everyone is running for the bunkers.
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Post by toots on Aug 19, 2015 10:21:45 GMT
One mad statement by the Spanish government and everyone is running for the bunkers. It might not be a serious thing for you buggritt, or affect you personally (yet), but I am governed by Spanish authorities and I know first hand how they operate and block me from viewing certain websites, so it has been very important and helpful for me to change over to a VPN which I would not have known about if it hadn't been for peeps on here. Thanks guys for all your help with choosing a VPN. Oh, and this morning I was offered a yearly fee of just $14.99 as a new client which would give me a few more benefits. Haven't taken it up, am using the free one which disconnects and reconnects every 3 hours.
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Post by FreedomVape on Aug 19, 2015 15:05:32 GMT
Disgusting the whole thing reeks of corruption Unfortunately having ran a couple of businesses in Spain, I became well aware that Spain is corrupt to the core, and still operates under the 'brown envelope' procedure and the Spanish public have learned to accept that. It's only just over 30 years since they lost there communist Government so most government departments and town halls still have heads of departments that run on corruption. I have personally seen this still go on with official letters going adrift which resulted in personal fines on numerous occasions and in Spain the Government can raid your bank accounts to collect such fines and you have no recourse. It is disgusting to think that such countries are allowed EU status and allowed EU money when it gets ciphered into corrupt pockets and I found that since the crisis they specifically targeted foreign nationals by creating new tax laws as they still have some money left for the Spanish to tax. I think the issue for Spain is that e-cigs took off almost overnight and caught the Spanish taxman unaware as a very high of majority of Spanish used to smoke and most switched almost overnight and vape shops popped up on every corner within a few months. Once again, it is an issue of money and the Spanish government will do anything to create ways of handing out fines. I recall a new law coming into place stating that restaurants could no longer place olive oil on tables unless they were bought from a government regulated source and stored in specific containers. This prevented restaurants from purchasing in bulk from cash and carries or supermarkets and forced them to buy from specific government approved suppliers and those that flouted this ridiculous law could receive a huge fine. It is no surprise then that the Gov want to cash in on this new commodity and I do think other countries will follow suit unfortunately.
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Post by reefcat on Aug 19, 2015 15:16:06 GMT
Whilst they would never admit it, the Portuguese government tends to follow Spain's lead. So I'm expecting similar legislation to follow over here. I've also had a business here in Portugal and suffered similar issues to FreedomVape However, it's a great place to retire to as long as you don't have any business interests here. Sadly many vaping shops have closed down & there are very few good online retailers of vape gear, so most of my stuff comes from the UK & China. There is already a tax on nicotine so when I next stock up I will try and get someone to bring it over for me from the UK.
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