what too buy and where for penelope

[OneDay]

It should come with a metre of wick too if it's a new one

[blakey]

My personal preference for penelope is .2 guage kanthal wire, It gives the best trade off between length and resistance for me but I do use .2 ni-chrome a lot too.
I think you'll struggle to make a coil that will fit inside penelope using .212 wire until you have some coil making experience.
If you want raggy, I can send you a couple of set ups to give you some idea of what you need to aim for.
As for wick, Cam will be putting shed loads of it on his site along with ready wires next monday/tuesday.
A very good alternative for me is this stuff www.cig-eliquid.co.uk/fiberglass_Silica_wick_2mm-15mm-1mm/p649230_2911788.aspx get the 2mm and the 1mm, put them together to make the required 3mm for penelope's wick channels, It's a superb wick.
I haven't tried the 1.5mm wick but I've just ordered some to try

[ragjoy]

thanks every one for the help and advice.
i think the best thing is too get it with what comes with it and then i should understand better what everyone is saying.
blakey, great offer mate, yes it would be good too try/see a couple of properly made ones.
i dont really want to go the route of ready made as it sort of spoils the whole principle of diy or am i also getting that wrong.
i dont understand the trade off between length and resistance, id thought that all final set-ups finish up the same length.
whilst i would like more burn power + vaper i also dont want be using silly amounts of juice, i would just like something that finishes up like a new boge, but stays new longer.
how come you have all tried so many different methods, is it because you just like too keep trying different ways or have you found certain ways simply not good enough.
i know many of you are total enthusiasts so do you just have a coil on for a day or so then try something different or do they only last a couple of days.


raggy..........

[jayjay]

Raggy,
If I was you mate I wouldn't touch that ready wire till youve got the hang of coiling either. If you reached straight for that one ready wire, theres a chance you'd mess it up.


Oh and have I missed something, is my mate perps giving away free stuff for the penny?

[blakey]

Aug 27, 2012 9:31:02 GMT ragjoy said:

thanks every one for the help and advice.
i think the best thing is too get it with what comes with it and then i should understand better what everyone is saying.
blakey, great offer mate, yes it would be good too try/see a couple of properly made ones.
i dont really want to go the route of ready made as it sort of spoils the whole principle of diy or am i also getting that wrong.
i dont understand the trade off between length and resistance, id thought that all final set-ups finish up the same length.
whilst i would like more burn power + vaper i also dont want be using silly amounts of juice, i would just like something that finishes up like a new boge, but stays new longer.
how come you have all tried so many different methods, is it because you just like too keep trying different ways or have you found certain ways simply not good enough.
i know many of you are total enthusiasts so do you just have a coil on for a day or so then try something different or do they only last a couple of days.


raggy..........

A good coil will last me as a heavy vaper about a week before it get gunged up, of course how quick a coil gets clogged also depends on the juice ie. anything caramel heavy will clog faster.
Then I have the choice of removing the set up from penelope and rinsing it before putting it in the flame of a lighter to dry burn and clean the wick before refitting or simply make a new set up. More often than not I'll make a new one
Different wires have different resistances raggy, in order to get the reqiured resistance for your coil you need to know the resistance of the wire you are using. If you have a wire with 34ohms per meter you need to divide that 34 by 100 to find ohms per cm, in this case the answer will be .34ohms, so 5cm at .34ohms will = 1.7ohms

If your wire has a resistance of 54ohms per meter then that will be .54ohms per cm so 4cm = 2.16ohms
Thats what we mean by different lengths.

The reason I personally have tried so many things is that I have constantly been trying to find that special something that works perfectly for me, I have more or less found that now and once Imeo releases proteus I can honestly say that I really have zero need to spend another penny on anything other than juice wick and wire and batteries but I know I will

[lynwlt]

My Penelope is still in the envelope, unopened.
I just know I'm going to mess up the first coil and wont have any wire to make another.

Like Raggy, I've been pretty confused by what I need to buy and this has been a helpful thread. (I hope..lol)

I must admit that I sort of lose the will to live when people start talking about multimeters and ohms and tails and scorching....

Maybe I'll just carry on with my cartos.

Lynda

[blakey]

Lyn, have a look here wires.co.uk/acatalog/E-CIG_IATTY_ATOMIZER_WIRE.html from the top section get some .2 ni-chrome and from the bottom section get the .2 silver wire. That's all you need for penelope

[ragjoy]

Aug 27, 2012 10:01:49 GMT jayjay said:

Raggy,
If I was you mate I wouldn't touch that ready wire till youve got the hang of coiling either. If you reached straight for that one ready wire, theres a chance you'd mess it up.


Oh and have I missed something, is my mate perps giving away free stuff for the penny?

jayjay,
i want to do it all the right way and not the cheat way (i dont mean that in a detrimental way) i want too understand it, ive refused in the past 2.5 years to get too involved with all the technicalities of vaping.
i just jump on the bandwagon of what others are doing.
but i really want too be able give an opinion on stuff rather than just keep asking for help every time i look at a new idea.
although i come across as being a bit slow on the the uptake generally i understand and master things really quickly.
i think i have just been refusing to become as obsessive as many of you guys are, the reason is with any hobby ive ever had i become totally obsessed with it and ive been resisting that but if im to start using my own self build stuff then im getting sucked in to vaping being more than just a means of getting nicotine too it being a full blown interest/hobby.
in my work "floor and wall tiling" i only accept total perfection, bordering on OCD if i cant do a job to a very high standard i simply wont do it, so i get a bit nervous of getting too involved with some things and vaping has been one of those that ive tried to avoid if that makes sense, i need to embrace it without becoming OCD about it.

raggy...........

[ragjoy]

i think im going to follow what blakey does and maybe ask for some advice along the way, if thats ok blakey, it may seem like im stalking you somewhat as i will no doubt will have plenty too ask.
im not putting down anyone elses help/advice but blakey does get it down in a form that i can understand, also trying too follow to many differing opinions just confuses the issue.
i will play around with what perpy sends then order what blakey suggests.
ive never had as much enthusiasm about vaping methods as i have at the minute with the penelope and i have not even got it yet.

raggy...........

[jayjay]

Raggy, you and me are very similar. Many people think I'm abit backward, but In actual fact, I is a total genius!

And yep follow what blakey says, you won't go wrong.

[esmecullen]

Raggy, Blakey's tutorial is the best............. and if I can follow it and enjoy my Penelope, then you can

[Bluefish]

I coiled mine in the pub on saturday night using the ready wire that came with it, no problem with the coil, however there was a problem with the tail causing a short, and just needed cutting a tiny bit shorter, cut tested 1.5 ohm, personally i don't see what difference it makes what ohms you get within reason, cos you adjust the voltage to suit the coil, so a 1.5 ohm i can vape happily at 4.2 volts, and if the coil was 2 ohm, then maybe voltage would be 4.8 or 5 etc, but if you follow blakey's tutorial, all should be well

[ragjoy]

thanks again everyone.

raggy.........

[lynwlt]

So, if you don't mind Raggy, I'll just stalk you.....

[ragjoy]

Aug 27, 2012 11:56:25 GMT lynwlt said:

So, if you don't mind Raggy, I'll just stalk you.....

thats fine with me lyn



raggy