Advice please explain the nicotine

[furball]

Please can someone help me and explain about the difference between vaping nicotine and smoking nicotine. (Tried the search but it keeps saying not enough characters) Googling it is so full of contradictory advice, some say the nicotine is just as harmful, some say it is far better and only like caffine in coffee. Please can someone explain. Thankyou.

[Chrissie]

Furball, basically nicotine isn't very harmful whether it's from real cigs or vaping or nicotine patches/gum.

Nicotine isn't carcinogenic, it's the tar & hundreds of other chemicals in real cigs that are dangerous.

If nicotine was dangerous, they wouldn't be selling nicotine gum in most supermarkets. Also nicotine is present in several food sources - tomatoes & potatoes to name a couple.

[wotsit]

Hi Furball

Cigarettes do contain nicotine but also a ton of other really nasty nasty things. Most of the stuff that does you damage is all the tar and Co2 and crap. Nicotine is a vaso-dilator, it tighens up for vessels and raises your blood pressure but is very short acting so very soon after inhaling your vessels go back to normal.

I think if it is a choice between no stimulant or stimulant then the healthier option is no stimulant altogether. But if its a question of stimulant or stimulant packed with a lot of other crap and gunge then you go for the stimulant.
It has also been found to have some health benefits too (I think less instanses of dementia?).

[furball]

Thankyou. Is the nicotine in the carts a more concentrated form, as it recommends them to be kept in a locked box on some of the youtube video's. It mentions nicotine is classed as a poison, it's this thats confusing me. Are the tiny amount in the carts nothing to worry about?

[l15a]

Mar 2, 2011 21:20:34 GMT Chrissie said:

Furball, basically nicotine isn't very harmful whether it's from real cigs or vaping or nicotine patches/gum.

Nicotine isn't carcinogenic, it's the tar & hundreds of other chemicals in real cigs that are dangerous.

If nicotine was dangerous, they wouldn't be selling nicotine gum in most supermarkets. Also nicotine is present in several food sources - tomatoes & potatoes to name a couple.

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Ooo I didn't know that..

[jerryrm]

Furball, nicotine in small doses is no more harmful than caffeine. However, both are addictive.

The major difference between vaping and smoking nicotine is there are many other ingredients in cigarettes that can be cancer causing. There are only a few, if that many, ingredients in e-juice that can cause cancer, if taken in larger quantities than is in an e-cig. The truth is that e-cigs are a lot safer than cigaretttes, but nothing is 100% safe.

The anti-smoker/tobacco gang, were against smoking, until the e-cig came along. Then they changed their crusade from "anti-smoking" to anti-nicotine". They just want to see an end to tobacco use in all of it's forms.

[jerryrm]

Wow, you gals are quick !!! There weren't any posts after Furball's question, when I started typing a response.

[furball]

Very interesting isn't it. For years we have been lead to believe nicotine is whats harmful in cigs, whereas it's all the crap they put into the cig alongside the nicotine and also to make the cig burn, but i suppose if they mentioned the cyanide in cigs their sales would drop. Does anyone know what specifically causes the tar, or is it a combination of things. I would love to know. It's amazing how evasive marketing is untill you start digging and how statistics can show anything they are paid to show.

[furball]

The anti-smoker/tobacco gang, were against smoking, until the e-cig came along. Then they changed their crusade from "anti-smoking" to anti-nicotine".

I didn't know that.

[jerryrm]

I believe that the tar in cigarettes comes from the paper, but I could be wrong.

[Chrissie]

Link to nicotine content in food sources (OK, it's minute - but there) : -

pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jf990089w

[Chrissie]

Some of the known benefits of nicotine : -

health.howstuffworks.com/wellness/drugs-alcohol/nicotine-health-benefits.htm

[furball]

Well i never, very interesting. Thanks for the link.

[Scylla]

This may account for how I can go much longer without vaping than I could without smoking:

It is worth noting that nicotine, although frequently implicated in producing tobacco addiction, is not significantly addictive when administered alone. The addictive potential manifests itself after co-administration of an MAOI, which specifically causes sensitization of the locomotor response in rats, a measure of addictive potential.

Wikipedia

But I have also seen orheard info from very new research that says nicotine can to something that sets off something else that may be carcinogenic, but I cannot for the life of me find any record of it.

scylla

[furball]

The addictive potential manifests itself after co-administration of an MAOI, er whats a MAOI please.