eGo 1100 Twist??

[charlie]

I went for Bloog thinking when I get a chance I'll try to promote them wholesale for newbies and that they wouldn't really appeal to experienced users. But I'm getting repeat orders from some very experienced vapers, so I think they must be ok

There's normally one in my pocket too. Just bear in mind their size, no way they will ever kick out a 20 watt vape. But there's as good, probably better, than any cigalike I've tried particularly on flavour and looks.

Jan 1, 2013 20:18:16 GMT Karma said:

Nice to have you here on AAEC Charlie

I'm so loving the look of that Bloog battery, perfect for work

www.charliesvapeshop.co.uk/#/shop/4571204872/Bloog-78-mm-anodized-batteries/4388116

[charlie]

Standard post option is back up and running, just tested it

Scroll down on the shipping options scrollbar. Any problems let me know.

Jan 1, 2013 20:23:55 GMT Karma said:

Charlie, when are you re-instating standard postage?

[charlie]

Happy to post to France at cost if you can't wait Just choose 1st/2nd/recorded/special delivery etc and I'll invoice you any extra cost. No need to select international shipping rate as this is just an estimate at the moment.

Jan 1, 2013 21:10:16 GMT jess said:

Jan 1, 2013 20:18:16 GMT Karma said:

Nice to have you here on AAEC Charlie

I'm so loving the look of that Bloog battery, perfect for work

www.charliesvapeshop.co.uk/#/shop/4571204872/Bloog-78-mm-anodized-batteries/4388116

I was looking at that yesterday, rather nice, innit? There's a downside to living here though, so will treat myself when I'm UK bound.

[charlie]

Hi Alvoram, no offense taken whatsoever. I should have made it more clear on the website that these are not Joyetech Twists. Would have changed the item description this morning, but 'eGo Twist style batteries' doesn't fit the template which is a bit frustrating, so it will have be done in the explanatory text for each item.

There is so much to learn in this new industry that in my opinion we need free and open debates like this. Just please bear in mind that I am a new vendour and still have a lot to learn. Having said that, I also have clear ambitions of where I'm hoping to go with the business: good quality affordable kit that works. I want every smoker to be able to at least try the sort of vapor achieved by more experienced vapers without them having to go through what most of us went through - trial and error costing hundreds of pounds, sometimes for devices that never get used. And I think mass production is essential, although I dislike blatant copies. So I will probably stick to clones where they've made design changes, even if it is only to add a pretty flower design, or improved air vent etc etc. China really doesn't have the same cultural attitude to design patents and branding. There is also next to no transparency. They just don't get our appetite for information and cynicism for 'the official line'. But they are also amazingly dynamic, hard working and inventive. And gradually I think they will understand that we want well-made mass-produced devices, made with premium materials, not cheap knock offs. But at the moment, the choice is between cheap knock offs and hand finished, custom made devices with not much in between.
I am sympathetic to all the views voiced in this thread. For the moment I'm undecided about these Twist clones, but I agree they look too much like the Joyetech ones for comfort.
I did not set out to make money ripping of premium brands with cheap copies - that's not part of my business plan. But I also don't want to go down the premium brands only route (although I do stock Bloog!).
If anyone is interested, there is a very interesting thread (you can google it) comparing the 'Vision Eternity' made by LG (same as TVs, phones etc) and the Mark Bugs 'Infinity' and a debate on whether it is a rip off or an improvement. I love Mark Bugs stuff, and just this week spent £100+ for a new Mark Bugs atomizer, just for the collection But the £15.99 mass produced Vision Eternity is still my most used atomizer. Has copyright been infringed? No idea. Is the Eternity better than the Infinity? The only way to tell is suck it and see

Jan 2, 2013 3:36:46 GMT alvoram said:

Oh dear, what did I start here?

I meant no offence to the vendor, and didn't even intend to put the OP off buying, as I said, they are worth the price, despite not being genuine joyetech. I just wanted to answer the question originally posted "is this real?" and also point out that the genuine Joyetech "twists" (and yes, it was the "twist" part that I was calling fake, a copy, stolen name, as Ego, could define the thread type ) were in my experience much better. But then they are more expensive too.

Whilst we're on the subject of fairness to vendors though, how about fairness to manufacturers too. My main concern with these cheap copies, is that because they are not as good, people may try them and think that they are not all they're cracked up to be, maybe even give opinions based on this within these forums to new users, when those opinions are based on the cheap fake version, and not the joyetech product, which is much better. I'm almost certain this has happened in the past, and I don't think that is fair to joyetech, who try to bring us the best products, of high quality, only for them to be imitated. Same goes for other manufacturers, smoktech, Vision and so on. Must be bad for them.

That said, I'm not against fakes, I think if someone can bring you a product for less, then that's a good thing, but people should remain aware of the differences, and the potential differences in quality, and should understand why the genuine versions cost more. Because they were created by the innovators who spent money coming up with the design in the first place, and are possibly manufacturing it to a higher standard.

/rant

I hope people understand what I was trying to say now, no offence intended to anyone, and if I wanted a twist right now, I wouldn't have any problems buying from Charlie at those prices.

[alvoram]

Charlie, with interaction like this, you, and your 'new' business, will do very well, and I wish you every success. I wouldn't worry too much on whether things are real or fake, when deciding what to sell, as I said, its a good thing that vendors can bring us cheaper versions that work. And if you can source cheaper products, that do work almost as well as the original, then there is every reason to do just that, especially as you are selling them at a price that reflects this (unlike some vendors who sell the cheaper versions at the full price )

But I do think it is a good move for vendors to name the manufacturer, and whether or not they are the originals, such as what you've chosen to do by informing customers that they are not joyetech twists. That empowers the customer with accurate information for them to base their decisions on, and I'm sure it won't put us bargain hunters off, but will help us to keep in mind the reason why they are cheaper. A very open, honest, and just all round good move IMO.

As for these twists, to summarise, if they are like the 1100mah ones I have that look similar, they are well worth the money you are asking, no they aren't quite joyetech, don't last as long, but the price reflects that, also they do work well, and do the job intended, so these seem like a good deal to me.

[Deleted]

:)Thankyou for that, Charlie, that's good to know, as I did baulk at the shipping cost.

[Deleted]

Charlie, I'm gonna hold fire on the battery until you have some feedback on how they are; having said that, I'm happy I started this thread so people got a chance to meet you, myself included and I will be purchasing other things from your site this week.

Adam.

[Malibu]

I have been looking at getting a cigalike type for work too and that anodised battery quite took my fancy (I could use it with a bud or something as I dont like boges etc)

1. Is it best to get manual or auto ?

2. The charger there is like the one I have for the SDK or I have a ego/riva one, would either of these be ok for charging it ?

[Blownupdolly]

Jan 2, 2013 18:14:54 GMT Malibu said:

I have been looking at getting a cigalike type for work too and that anodised battery quite took my fancy (I could use it with a bud or something as I dont like boges etc)

1. Is it best to get manual or auto ?

2. The charger there is like the one I have for the SDK or I have a ego/riva one, would either of these be ok for charging it ?

Good questions Malibu. I love the look of them too and i think my daughter would be impressed. She likes girlie coloured stuff.

[charlie]

With prices cut to the bone, I have had to raise the postage costs recently more in line with the average daily postal spend. Even now, I doubt it covers packing materials

And over Christmas, I with the post office under huge pressure and relying on temporary staff, we wanted to avoid losses and delays.

Standard shipping is now available and will be available until late December 2013

[Karma]

Jan 2, 2013 18:14:54 GMT Malibu said:

I have been looking at getting a cigalike type for work too and that anodised battery quite took my fancy (I could use it with a bud or something as I dont like boges etc)

1. Is it best to get manual or auto ?

2. The charger there is like the one I have for the SDK or I have a ego/riva one, would either of these be ok for charging it ?

It's a totally different thread, 808D, Malibu, so you'd need the charger and cartos to match

[Malibu]

Ok that's out then I don't like cartos :-[
Thanks for the help

[Karma]

Jan 2, 2013 18:30:40 GMT Malibu said:

Ok that's out then I don't like cartos :-[
Thanks for the help

What do you use on a cig-a-like battery if you don't like cartos?

[charlie]

Thanks Adam, I'm also glad you started this thread. I've learnt a lot and got to 'meet' some of you.

It's a funny world, but there has been a rush of sales on eGo clones, people buying them by the handful and we've sold out of some eGos! Will wait a few weeks and see how many come back before restocking, but so far so good. Think I'll also avoid the 'straight copies', there are so many batteries that charge of an eGo 'type' charger there is no need to stick to clones of the well known branded stufff.

It's a shame for us 'little guys' that Joyetech have signed a sole distributor agreement in the UK. But there are still plenty of other decent devices.

Jan 2, 2013 14:56:53 GMT @mp2012 said:

Charlie, I'm gonna hold fire on the battery until you have some feedback on how they are; having said that, I'm happy I started this thread so people got a chance to meet you, myself included and I will be purchasing other things from your site this week.

Adam.

[charlie]

Jan 2, 2013 18:14:54 GMT Malibu said:

I have been looking at getting a cigalike type for work too and that anodised battery quite took my fancy (I could use it with a bud or something as I dont like boges etc)

1. Is it best to get manual or auto ?

2. The charger there is like the one I have for the SDK or I have a ego/riva one, would either of these be ok for charging it ?

Auto is easy if you don't have a hand free to hold and want to look like James Dean with an eCig hanging off your lip.

Manual gives you more control. I use one of each and don't yet have a preference

Re the charger, as a Bloog distributor, I'd have to stay best to stick to the Bloog charger. And isn't Riva 901, and the SDK 510? whereas Bloog is KR808. So I think you'd need a charger.