Good read for MEPS

[womble]

I thought this may be a good thing to pass onto MEPS?

www.acsh.org/opinion/the-eus-new-tobacco-directive-protecting-cigarette-markets-killing-smokers/

[djs]

What a great read.

I can see the final decision becoming a *moment* in time when politicians have it within their grasp to vote for saving lives and promoting harm reduction OR bowing to pressure from the almighty £pound (or euro).

But millions of smokers have offered case studies in networks and chat rooms of “vapers,” their own term for e-cigarette use, offering testimony to their efficacy in helping them quit and pleading for authorities to allow them continued access. The product, in various forms, essentially supplies the drug smokers crave — nicotine — without the toxic, deadly smoke. The vaporized nicotine is inhaled with flavorings and substances such as propylene glycol, all completely harmless based on years of safe use.

Which way will it fall? Anyone with any sense will see the logic in voting AGAINST the proposals. No sane person with an ounce of empathy or compassion could possibly wish MILLIONS of people to return to smoking. I guess we will find out whether altruism exists in politics, because if it does, there is ONLY ONE ANSWER.

Ignorance is no defence. MEPs that vote for "the ban" (dressed up as "sensible regulation", but only allowing 4mg/ml liquid) are therefore personally responsible for unnecessary premature deaths across Europe on scale which cannot be swept aside in the interests of fiscal survival.

[Banky]

But would they read it, or stand their ground about the issues they say they have about e-cigs,
They think they are god almighty, and are pig ignorant they will stand their ground.

[womble]

Feb 16, 2013 23:12:58 GMT djs said:

What a great read.

I can see the final decision becoming a *moment* in time when politicians have it within their grasp to vote for saving lives and promoting harm reduction OR bowing to pressure from the almighty £pound (or euro).

But millions of smokers have offered case studies in networks and chat rooms of “vapers,” their own term for e-cigarette use, offering testimony to their efficacy in helping them quit and pleading for authorities to allow them continued access. The product, in various forms, essentially supplies the drug smokers crave — nicotine — without the toxic, deadly smoke. The vaporized nicotine is inhaled with flavorings and substances such as propylene glycol, all completely harmless based on years of safe use.

Which way will it fall? Anyone with any sense will see the logic in voting AGAINST the proposals. No sane person with an ounce of empathy or compassion could possibly wish MILLIONS of people to return to smoking. I guess we will find out whether altruism exists in politics, because if it does, there is ONLY ONE ANSWER.

Ignorance is no defence. MEPs that vote for "the ban" (dressed up as "sensible regulation", but only allowing 4mg/ml liquid) are therefore personally responsible for unnecessary premature deaths across Europe on scale which cannot be swept aside in the interests of fiscal survival.

Well in defence of MEP's, they can't know everything and have to take everything bought to them by their constituents as hearsay. They have to rely on facts and those facts have to come from decent organisations.
They also can't do it all themselves, they have to rely on the party view and/or advice from advisor's.
What we know, we can't impart to an MEP in ten minutes, nor ten hours, it takes time for this sort of thing to seep in.

Personally, I don't believe that any number of people coming to them telling them how great ecigs are, will make any difference, but it may make them sit up and take notice of other information. (may )

What they need are facts and information from higher up sources. I think this may be one of them.

[womble]

Feb 16, 2013 23:20:23 GMT Banky said:

But would they read it, or stand their ground about the issues they say they have about e-cigs,
They think they are god almighty, and are pig ignorant they will stand their ground.

Some will I guess, some won't.

The more information we can give them, the more chance we have.

[djs]

Feb 16, 2013 23:23:26 GMT womble said:

What they need are facts and information from higher up sources. I think this may be one of them.

Let's hope so.

[Banky]

Feb 16, 2013 23:26:11 GMT womble said:

Feb 16, 2013 23:20:23 GMT Banky said:

But would they read it, or stand their ground about the issues they say they have about e-cigs,
They think they are god almighty, and are pig ignorant they will stand their ground.

Some will I guess, some won't.

The more information we can give them, the more chance we have.

I will certainly pass on to my MEPs and MSPs.

[womble]

Feb 16, 2013 23:46:18 GMT Banky said:

Feb 16, 2013 23:26:11 GMT womble said:

Some will I guess, some won't.

The more information we can give them, the more chance we have.

I will certainly pass on to my MEPs and MSPs.

The things I like about it are, that it's written in a way everyone can understand, it covers the main problems, it does it in a quick and easy way.
Anyone wanting to research ecigs after reading it, will have all the right things to go on.

Hey, it's only a drop in the ocean and if the more experienced campaigners say something is wrong with it, I will go with them. But it looks good to me.