Sorry I am such a winge bag tonight!

[kibbster]

Feb 26, 2013 21:36:06 GMT meeee said:

If it cheers you up From what I remember exchange 2003 cals also cover outlook 2003, so you could install office 2013 and outlook 2003 which should work. Or you could install office 2013 and outlook from office 2010. Also to be honest you don't really get many of the outlook 2010 features unless you have 2010 exchange installed anyway.

We've got Exchange 2007/2010 as well as 2013 CALs (depended when we bought them).
My Outlook 2010 was left untouched so I could have carried on using 2010 and then 2013 for Excel and Word etc but it would be a cludge.
I installed 2013 to test it and see if we could start to roll it out with new PCs over the coming years (an Exchange upgrade has been put off fora year or so due to a £200k+ ERP rollout.)

The problem is that because of Microsoft's hate of anything old, new machines with Windows 7 and Office 2010 will be harder to come by in a years time.
I guess they've never tried to work in our office where change requires a massive retraining effort and a lot of stress.
Seriously, someone's icon moves on their desktop and they are on the Batphone for me to run over and "fix" it for them lol

Asking them to move to Windows 8 and Office 2013 is like asking a rabbit to write Shakespeare in Swahili


But eventually we'll reach the point (pretty close to it now) where Exchange 2003, Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP jsut isn't viable anymore... and then all hell will break loose!

From the 13 seconds I had with Office 2013 I hated the UI anyway lol
 

[meeee]

I did prefer administering Exchange 2003, They have moved nearly everything in exchange 2010 Gui (its just a front end now for powershell) and I find it harder to navigate around, however it has got some cool features that exchange 2003 does not have. As you say the licenses will be harder to come by, of course you could just buy them under an open license agreement which will cover you for the older versions of windows / office. I hassen to add the company I work for does not do this due to cost.

[farzooks]

Feb 26, 2013 20:21:31 GMT Raffles said:

Have been without heating or hot water for three weeks, and today, with a new system, have had a decent bath, washed all my laundry and dried it, and feel like I'm back in the human race. We take so much for granted!

Oh yes, hot water is marvellous stuff
My immersion packed up and I refused to buy another one, not just because of the price, but that I knew there was one lying around somewhere buried in the workshop. Took me ages to find it - like, a month.
I wasn't too fussed because I have another hot tank upstairs, next door, but it's not exactly convenient to use and I was keeping the kitchen going by boiling kettles non-stop.
Eventually I found the immersion heater and fitted it - what a joy that was.
Next time (and there always is a next time for these damned things) I'm not putting it off again, I'll just get one asap.

[kibbster]

Feb 26, 2013 22:41:26 GMT meeee said:

I did prefer administering Exchange 2003, They have moved nearly everything in exchange 2010 Gui (its just a front end now for powershell) and I find it harder to navigate around, however it has got some cool features that exchange 2003 does not have. As you say the licenses will be harder to come by, of course you could just buy them under an open license agreement which will cover you for the older versions of windows / office. I hassen to add the company I work for does not do this due to cost.

Tbh we've known the "upgrade" is overdue. 

We've hit the 50gb database limit in 2003 a couple of times and then set up auto archive on everyone's pc. 

Eventually though we'll hit it again and have no way of reducing the sever mail storage any further. 

We thought about unmounting the database and cleaning white space but with sales working all hours it's not feasible for us to shut down the mail server for a day or more so it'll have to be an upgrade. 

[meeee]

I think The limit for exchange 2003 is 75gb? an offline defrag will take a while though, last time I did it took about 8 hours, plus you would also need more than the same amount of free hdd space free as it actually makes a copy of the db when defragmenting.

As you say it's probably time for an upgrade anyway.

[kibbster]

Feb 27, 2013 0:39:26 GMT meeee said:

I think The limit for exchange 2003 is 75gb? an offline defrag will take a while though, last time I did it took about 8 hours, plus you would also need more than the same amount of free hdd space free as it actually makes a copy of the db when defragmenting.

As you say it's probably time for an upgrade anyway.
Yeah sorry I think you're right. 75gb.

[Blownupdolly]

As they say.. Tomorrow is another day. Hope it all gets better tomorrow