Flavour Charts

[Super-Shiny]

I take the charts like a pinch of salt, some might be right and some might be wrong with the percentages, if anything it might give a average, but than again everyone's taste of one flavor could be the opposite to others.

If anything i would only use them charts for the flavors that are stated as 1-5% which normally tells me it is one hell of a strong flavor....anything from 10% too 20% can mean anything from sweet too slightly sweet.

[fred]

Apr 27, 2013 21:16:56 GMT Perpetua said:

Apr 27, 2013 20:54:36 GMT Gasper said:

might have Diacetyl in them, fred

Oil in some of the fruits, Acetyl Propionyl and or Acetoin would be my guess fred.

Hmmm - 

That would possibly put the likes of apple, blackcurrant....  on the 'unsafe' list, as potentially containing Acetion.
Also, would cream & custard & the like not be prime candidates for these type of additives?

What a minefield vaping is turning out to be. 
(At least I knew whatever brand or flavour of baccy or fags I had, they were really bad for me )

[Perpetua]

Apr 27, 2013 21:32:33 GMT fred said:

Apr 27, 2013 21:16:56 GMT Perpetua said:

Oil in some of the fruits, Acetyl Propionyl and or Acetoin would be my guess fred.

Hmmm - 

That would possibly put the likes of apple, blackcurrant....  on the 'unsafe' list, as potentially containing Acetion.
Also, would cream & custard & the like not be prime candidates for these type of additives?

What a minefield vaping is turning out to be. 
(At least I knew whatever brand or flavour of baccy or fags I had, they were really bad for me )

I think you'll be fine with Apple and Blackcurrant Fred, I didn't explain myself very well in that post ^^^^^

I'll make a better job this time:

Oil in some of the fruits

Acetyl Propionyl and or Acetoin in some of the other flavours


The Perfumer's Apprentice website is excellent for the guidance it gives on it's flavouring contents, it's not a hard and fast for all Flavour Houses obviously, but it might give you some guidance.

shop.perfumersapprentice.com/c-54-professional-flavors.aspx

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Might be worth getting 28VapesLater invoked in the ccw questions ... They sell ccw and I believe have checked the "safety" question. As I stated earlier safe to vape has many meanings

[28VapesLater]

Apr 27, 2013 20:47:10 GMT fred said:

From the first link, why are these considered not safe for vaping?

Cupcake World

Cupcake World^[4] is a food flavouring manufacturer that does NOT specialize in vape related flavourings. However, through compiled user experiences and an email from the company, their flavours appear to be safe for vaping aside from the following:
Aniseed
Chilli
Christmas Cake
Coconut
Ginger
Lemon
Lime
Liquorice
Orange
Pineapple
Rose
Tutti Fruiti

I'm guessing Frogster (The Alchemist) is the main man for this - it's his info after all, but any help appreciated, as I've got their coconut

They have an oil base, Alison from Cupcake World gave me the same list of flavours not considered safe to vape.

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Apr 27, 2013 21:48:59 GMT 28VapesLater said:

Apr 27, 2013 20:47:10 GMT fred said:

From the first link, why are these considered not safe for vaping?

I'm guessing Frogster (The Alchemist) is the main man for this - it's his info after all, but any help appreciated, as I've got their coconut

They have an oil base, Alison from Cupcake World gave me the same list of flavours not considered safe to vape.

Health risk or equipment risk?

[fred]

Apr 27, 2013 21:52:09 GMT @ashmal said:

Apr 27, 2013 21:48:59 GMT 28VapesLater said:

They have an oil base, Alison from Cupcake World gave me the same list of flavours not considered safe to vape.

Health risk or equipment risk?

I'm hoping equipment, as I think it can be dealt with, but I'm guessing it's health
as oils can contain diketones - hope I'm wrong though.

Maybe I should just give the coconut to mrs. fred for cooking.

[28VapesLater]

She didn't say but I would imagine it's more of an equipment risk to be honest BUT that's not to say they aren't a health risk either, which is why I don't stock those particular flavours. I do know that some of them aren't oil based but are Ethanol/alcohol based and not PG based

[fred]

Apr 27, 2013 22:07:29 GMT 28VapesLater said:

She didn't say but I would imagine it's more of an equipment risk to be honest BUT that's not to say they aren't a health risk either, which is why I don't stock those particular flavours. I do know that some of them aren't oil based but are Ethanol/alcohol based and not PG based

That's what I found on the MSDS sheets (11 of the 12 if I remember correctly), but why would that be a problem, as we can thin VG with vodka?

[28VapesLater]

I shouldn't think it is a problem, I might even stock the ethanol based ones soon but want to do more research into those particular flavours as they were the ones CCW recommended to stay away from. I'll email them again to get more info on why they aren't recommended and let you know what they say.

[fred]

mrs fred doesn't get the coconut yet, then

[Jen]

Would be interested to know re the CCW lime as I have 30ml of this!

[Frogster (The Alchemist)]

Here is another one to worry about !

A student attempting to show how conditioned we have become to alarmists practicing junk science and spreading fear of everything in our environment conducted a survey…

In his project he urged people to sign a petition demanding strict control or total elimination of the chemical "dihydrogen monoxide."

And for plenty of good reasons, since:

1. it can cause excessive sweating and vomiting
2. it is a major component in acid rain
3. it can cause severe burns in its gaseous state
4. accidental inhalation can kill you
5. 100% of all people exposed to it will die
6. it contributes to erosion
7. it decreases effectiveness of automobile brakes
8. it has been found in tumors of terminal cancer patients
9. there are currently no legal requirements to have warnings displayed

He asked 50 people if they supported a ban of the chemical.

• Forty-three (43) said yes,
• six (6) were undecided,
• and only one (1) knew that the chemical was in fact.... "water".

[28VapesLater]

Just got a reply from Alison at CCW:

Hi Carrie

The flavours we recommend to not use for vaping contain either oil or
ethanol, we are aware that some of our wholesale cusomers do still use them
for vaping but we are not able to officially recommend them for vaping as we
have no test results as yet that confirm that there are no adverse side
effects from using them for vaping. We are being extra cautious as it is
still avery new area of use, hope that helps

Alison
Cupcake World