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Post by VapingBad on Oct 11, 2015 13:46:51 GMT
The Efusion uses a Fullymax battery the same make Evolv used in their reference mod. That's not what I meant VB, I couldn't see a xt30 etc in the photos so was wondering if it was just soldered straight to the board :/ I knew, was just saying re battery life & capacity, it look like a hard wired set-up from the photos to me to.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2015 14:44:21 GMT
What connector are they using for the lipo car147 ? XT30 m8, (Female on the Battery as it should be), its pretty tight at the bottom where the connector is, so you cannot really see it until you remove the pack. Good to know about the battery in the Efusion cheer's VapingBad
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Post by gm111 on Oct 11, 2015 18:12:03 GMT
What connector are they using for the lipo car147 ? XT30 m8, (Female on the Battery as it should be), its pretty tight at the bottom where the connector is, so you cannot really see it until you remove the pack. Good to know about the battery in the Efusion cheer's VapingBadThanks car147 , thought it would be something like that seen as they're selling spare batteries.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2015 18:20:38 GMT
FullyMax Lipo in the Efusion is at least 1300mah, as i put 1170mah back into it from a discharged state of 3.7v per cell. Pack discharged state was 11.1v
Hcigar VT200 Battery took 840mah from a distcharged state of 11.2v total capacity. And as i suspected the pack is indeed a 1000mah. It really annoys me when manufactuers give false claims on batteries, the same has happened for years in the R/C World with some dramatic claims from battery manufacturers, only to be proved as complete lies once the pack was tested. ( Big give away with the HCigar pack is its far smaller than the Efusion battery. )
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Post by vapegeek on Oct 13, 2015 4:01:24 GMT
FullyMax Lipo in the Efusion is at least 1300mah, as i put 1170mah back into it from a discharged state of 3.7v per cell. Pack discharged state was 11.1v Hcigar VT200 Battery took 840mah from a distcharged state of 11.2v total capacity. And as i suspected the pack is indeed a 1000mah. It really annoys me when manufactuers give false claims on batteries, the same has happened for years in the R/C World with some dramatic claims from battery manufacturers, only to be proved as complete lies once the pack was tested. ( Big give away with the HCigar pack is its far smaller than the Efusion battery. ) read that post yesterday, and im already on them to see what they have to say for themselves that is a bit off to be honest
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2015 6:36:25 GMT
FullyMax Lipo in the Efusion is at least 1300mah, as i put 1170mah back into it from a discharged state of 3.7v per cell. Pack discharged state was 11.1v Hcigar VT200 Battery took 840mah from a distcharged state of 11.2v total capacity. And as i suspected the pack is indeed a 1000mah. It really annoys me when manufactuers give false claims on batteries, the same has happened for years in the R/C World with some dramatic claims from battery manufacturers, only to be proved as complete lies once the pack was tested. ( Big give away with the HCigar pack is its far smaller than the Efusion battery. ) read that post yesterday, and im already on them to see what they have to say for themselves that is a bit off to be honest
Its quite the norm Rob, from my days flying R/C just about evey Lipoly battery that was released claimed to be the next best thing with,either dramatic claims about c ratings or actual performance.it was very difficult to find what were the decent packs and the rubbish. in the end i found Gens Ace, Turnigy ( Black and Silver label) were excellent, where as one of the leading US/ UK brands performed no better than Zippys, yet the pack price was "Premium" at around 4x the cost of a Gens Ace.
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Post by vapegeek on Oct 14, 2015 13:52:08 GMT
Ok So what Hcigar said was that they buy the batteries as 1300mah, and they are looking into the complaint i put yestarday about them being a bit lower than stated. However, now we are on the third batch of VT200, (expected next week)and they assured me of new batteries in the devices, and gold plated SS 510 connector instead of the brass as on the first versions, so lets see what we gonna get next week.
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Post by reefcat on Oct 14, 2015 13:58:07 GMT
Ok So what Hcigar said was that they buy the batteries as 1300mah, and they are looking into the complaint i put yestarday about them being a bit lower than stated. However, now we are on the third batch of VT200, (expected next week)and they assured me of new batteries in the devices, and gold plated SS 510 connector instead of the brass as on the first versions, so lets see what we gonna get next week. Rob VT200 battery very disappointing, don't get more than three hours on sensible build with TC. Will be interesting if they acknowledge that they have a problem & offer to fix it, it's not a cheap mod. On the plus side, just ordered an Efusion from you this morning, marked as dispatched already so looking forward to try that one out
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Post by phatfil on Oct 14, 2015 14:02:03 GMT
Ok So what Hcigar said was that they buy the batteries as 1300mah, and they are looking into the complaint i put yestarday about them being a bit lower than stated. However, now we are on the third batch of VT200, (expected next week)and they assured me of new batteries in the devices, and gold plated SS 510 connector instead of the brass as on the first versions, so lets see what we gonna get next week. Rob So what about the early adopters with sub standard batteries and brass 510 connectors, ??? am tempted to reject mine under distance selling cooling of period rules..
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Post by vapegeek on Oct 14, 2015 15:08:52 GMT
Ok So what Hcigar said was that they buy the batteries as 1300mah, and they are looking into the complaint i put yestarday about them being a bit lower than stated. However, now we are on the third batch of VT200, (expected next week)and they assured me of new batteries in the devices, and gold plated SS 510 connector instead of the brass as on the first versions, so lets see what we gonna get next week. Rob So what about the early adopters with sub standard batteries and brass 510 connectors, ??? am tempted to reject mine under distance selling cooling of period rules.. The batteries are not sub-standard. As i said, they got them as 1300mah, and this should be pretty much the story. If you do the testing, it should come pretty close to that. About the 510, its never been a secret that is made out of A1 brass, and its not much of a problem The latest edition, is an upgrade of the first one, but that doesn't mean there is anything wrong with the first one
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Post by vapegeek on Oct 14, 2015 15:23:20 GMT
Ok So what Hcigar said was that they buy the batteries as 1300mah, and they are looking into the complaint i put yestarday about them being a bit lower than stated. However, now we are on the third batch of VT200, (expected next week)and they assured me of new batteries in the devices, and gold plated SS 510 connector instead of the brass as on the first versions, so lets see what we gonna get next week. Rob VT200 battery very disappointing, don't get more than three hours on sensible build with TC. Will be interesting if they acknowledge that they have a problem & offer to fix it, it's not a cheap mod. On the plus side, just ordered an Efusion from you this morning, marked as dispatched already so looking forward to try that one out Did you run the test to get the exact numbers of the battery? Do that, and set it up by the numbers that will come up from escribe. To me, it did a significant improvement of the battery life
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Post by phatfil on Oct 14, 2015 18:03:58 GMT
Did you run the test to get the exact numbers of the battery? Do that, and set it up by the numbers that will come up from escribe. To me, it did a significant improvement of the battery life Test? do you mean the battery analyser ?? if so can you please describe whats needed step by step to perform this test? afaik you need a fully charged battery and a throwaway coil fitted in an atty attached to the device, and set a discharge wattage 40w reccomended??? is that it? how long will it take ? and is it safe to leave unattended?? many thanks in advance..
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Post by blakey on Oct 14, 2015 18:09:50 GMT
Did you run the test to get the exact numbers of the battery? Do that, and set it up by the numbers that will come up from escribe. To me, it did a significant improvement of the battery life Test? do you mean the battery analyser ?? if so can you please describe whats needed step by step to perform this test? afaik you need a fully charged battery and a throwaway coil fitted in an atty attached to the device, and set a discharge wattage 40w reccomended??? is that it? how long will it take ? and is it safe to leave unattended?? many thanks in advance.. Be warned, the battery analyser test takes about 5-6hours to complete For the VT 200 try setting the capacity to 14.43 which is the calculation for a 1300mh battery
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Post by reefcat on Oct 14, 2015 18:37:32 GMT
I set mine to 14.43 as recommended, the battery was running out of power while the indicator bar was showing 25% or so. I read that a more realistic number was around 11.1, so set mine to that. At least now it shows flat when it's flat.
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Post by blakey on Oct 14, 2015 18:47:54 GMT
I set mine to 14.43 as recommended, the battery was running out of power while the indicator bar was showing 25% or so. I read that a more realistic number was around 11.1, so set mine to that. At least now it shows flat when it's flat. To get an accurate reading you need to perform the test and use the numbers that are given by the software, I haven't done this myself yet cos I haven't been around the mod and pc together for long enough to perform it. Your settings are probably more realistic as I'm just using the stated mah to calculate. I will get round to performing the test and I'll try to remember to post the results
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