At last .. A working coil

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Managed yesterday to build a micro coil for a Kayfun lite plus that I have borrowed from a friend. 11 wraps .28 kanthal with cotton 1.3 ohms. The flavour and vapour is very very good. Put an ad in the trade section for one but if I don't manage to get a reply I will just have to blow a fair chunk of this months vape budget on one straight out the wrapper. Makes the trusty pro tank seem a bit tasteless.

[tominmids]

Feb 1, 2014 17:57:16 GMT Greg said:

Feb 1, 2014 17:51:56 GMT tominmids said:

chykensa I have been thinking about a microcoil, but worry about trying to thread the cotton through that tiny coil but yes I think it will have to be the next "project"

Microcoils are much easier to make than standard coils 
The biggest problem is using too much cotton wool, you hardly need any and you'll be amazed how little you need to use to make it work right, if you think it looks correct you've used too much 

Thanks Greg I'll remember this when I try a microcoil 

[tominmids]

Feb 1, 2014 18:27:09 GMT Pepperty said:

Terrifying ... one day - soon, (most probably) this'll be me! Thanks tominmids

Hi Pepperty. Yes you can do it too   One of the things that helped me a lot is that I used to work on an assembly track. We would frequently be moved around, so I had to learn new jobs frequently. Saying I could'nt do it was not an option, and true enough I could learn fairly quickly, it was the same for most of my workmates too, after an hour or two of moaning that the job was beyond them they'd get stuck into it and after a few days we'd be quite passable at it. So once I figured that no job was impossible it was just a matter of how long it was going to take me to get up to speed.
I think its a psychological thing. You can do it, its just a matter of when it all comes together 
So I look forward to hearing about your first successful re-coil job. It does'nt matter when you do, just so long as you do do it, because you can, I know you can 

[chykensa]

There are various pitfalls I encountered when starting my recoiling journey which were frustrating at the time but now I completely understand what was going wrong and why the coil didn't work as a result.

1) winding the wraps too widely - this meant that the coil wouldn't fit inside the atomiser body and touched the sides, causing a short.
2) winding the wraps too closely - this obviously causes a short too. Either the coil won't register at all on my Vamo (9.9), or the first time you put some power through it there is a bit flash and pop, followed by a very electrical smell. Thank goodness the Vamo has all that protection built in!
3) using nail clippers to trim the tail ends after reassembling the atomiser - this caused a short. Remedy = whilst squeezing the atomiser gently top to bottom, wiggle the wires until they break; this leaves no protrusion and therefore no short.
4) using too much wick - loads of dry hits because the wick can't feed the coil fast enough. I settled on 2mm Ekowool eventually with .2 Kanthal for the coil.
5) - winding the coil too tight - strangled the wick - see 4) I solved this by heating the Ekowool with a fag lighter and inserting a thin needle through the hollow middle to support the wick whilst I was wrapping. With needle removed, there was enough 'give' in the coil to allow the wick to do its job.
6) allowing the coil to sit too high in the body - risk of the coil touching the top pin (Protank) and a short. Solved by a gentle tug on the tails after reinserting the grommet and pin as these have a tendency to push the coil up in the body during insertion.

I'm sure there are more - if they come to me, I'll edit this post to include them.
Hope this helps all you wannabe recoilers out there, believe me there is nothing more satisfying than the first vape on a homemade coil - bleddy 'ansum!

[tominmids]

Feb 2, 2014 9:30:26 GMT chykensa said:

There are various pitfalls I encountered when starting my recoiling journey which were frustrating at the time but now I completely understand what was going wrong and why the coil didn't work as a result.

1) winding the wraps too widely - this meant that the coil wouldn't fit inside the atomiser body and touched the sides, causing a short.
2) winding the wraps too closely - this obviously causes a short too. Either the coil won't register at all on my Vamo (9.9), or the first time you put some power through it there is a bit flash and pop, followed by a very electrical smell. Thank goodness the Vamo has all that protection built in!
3) using nail clippers to trim the tail ends after reassembling the atomiser - this caused a short. Remedy = whilst squeezing the atomiser gently top to bottom, wiggle the wires until they break; this leaves no protrusion and therefore no short.
4) using too much wick - loads of dry hits because the wick can't feed the coil fast enough. I settled on 2mm Ekowool eventually with .2 Kanthal for the coil.
5) - winding the coil too tight - strangled the wick - see 4) I solved this by heating the Ekowool with a fag lighter and inserting a thin needle through the hollow middle to support the wick whilst I was wrapping. With needle removed, there was enough 'give' in the coil to allow the wick to do its job.
6) allowing the coil to sit too high in the body - risk of the coil touching the top pin (Protank) and a short. Solved by a gentle tug on the tails after reinserting the grommet and pin as these have a tendency to push the coil up in the body during insertion.

I'm sure there are more - if they come to me, I'll edit this post to include them.
Hope this helps all you wannabe recoilers out there, believe me there is nothing more satisfying than the first vape on a homemade coil - bleddy 'ansum!

Thats a useful list chykensa 
Number 1 was always my biggest problem, but think I may have overcome that one. When new coil is sat inside atomiser body, if it looks a bit wide I gently squeeze together a little with tweezers, and my screwdriver set has a long pointy bit which helps to position the individual wraps and position it all centrally.

Number 4 .. I'm now learning .. not too much wick 

Fresh from yesterdays success I made another regular coil for my protank mini 2 this afternoon .. yess another good one, 2.2 ohm and just filled the tank now.

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I use this to make microcoils , its smooth, so easy to pince coils together and slide them off.

The 'Alan key bit' also sits nicely in my kanger pro ' head slot' so I get a great parallel coil.