What timing

[Super-Shiny]

The woman who done my OH's makeup for the wedding who i gave a small vaping kit and some juices as hers was crap phoned us today and said her two friends are opening up a vaping shop not far from me.

She has asked if it is ok if the owners get in contact with me regarding vaping gear and making juices, she said they want me to make their juices as the ones i gave her they love them.

I have told her for starters they are gonna need a poison license and probably loads more things.

Don't know what to do, i already work from 12pm too 5-6am and this on top might just drain me considering all what is going on in my life with the moving home and all that.

Might just guide them and let them do the rest



 

[Steve (VapeStorm)]

Just be a consultant and take a commission lol

[erik514]

Just let them know you are interested and that you have a lot on your plate at the moment. That leaves it open for you when you get the rest sorted out.
Congrats though, sounds like it might be fun

[Blownupdolly]

Yeah, don't take on too much right now. Just tell them once you have settled in a new home you will consider it. I know it will mean turning down some extra income, but your health is far more important.

[Deleted]

Don't, whatever you do, get involved with making eliquid for sale -- you are not licensed and and without very expensive 3rd party liability insurance which you would not be able to get without being licensed, you risk having your ass sued off if someone took an allergic reaction to your eliquid.

[Clivia]

I agree with @yinyang - advise them what stuff they shoud buy - like mods and atties but don't do eliquids for a shop = official sale and trade

[Deleted]

Mar 12, 2014 19:50:15 GMT Clivia said:

I agree with @yinyang - advise them what stuff they shoud buy - like mods and atties but don't do eliquids for a shop = official sale and trade

for any advice he deserve to earn some cash   ..... he have skills and knowledge ( is not so easy to find a guy like shiny for free)....

Make some cash Shiny ,don't be shy ...  

[Clivia]

@chris2005 - yinyang and I don't want to deprive Shiny of some cash - contrary - we want to protect him from losing loads of cash - whatever private agreement he has with the people opening the shop is none of anybodies business - but if they sell liquid made by him and somebody has as yinyang said for exsample an allergic reaction - that could cost a lot - specially if Shiny has no license - and losing cash might then be the smaller problem - it could go in worst scenario towards a criminal offence

[Deleted]

Mar 12, 2014 20:32:37 GMT Clivia said:

@chris2005 - yinyang and I don't want to deprive Shiny of some cash - contrary - we want to protect him from losing loads of cash - whatever private agreement he has with the people opening the shop is none of anybodies business - but if they sell liquid made by him and somebody has as yinyang said for exsample an allergic reaction - that could cost a lot - specially if Shiny has no license - and losing cash might then be the smaller problem - it could go in worst scenario towards a criminal offence

please don't understand me wrong , i totally agree with you , but in the same time if he will share his knowledge with them for free they will make money and shiny nothing... 

[Clivia]

there is nothing wrong with getting money for a consultation  as long as his name is not on the bottles 

[lairey]

Agree with all of the above, no one should extect a superstar vape god consultant for nowt But if you do decide you'd like to investigate dipping your toe in the commercial juice pond (once you have moved and RL is back on an even keel) why not reach out to Grizz and Froggie to check out the ins and outs

[Deleted]

Mar 12, 2014 20:44:19 GMT Clivia said:

there is nothing wrong with getting money for a consultation  as long as his name is not on the bottles 

100% agree with you

[dreamylittledream]

Mar 12, 2014 19:03:15 GMT Super-Shiny said:

The woman who done my OH's makeup for the wedding who i gave a small vaping kit and some juices as hers was crap phoned us today and said her two friends are opening up a vaping shop not far from me.

She has asked if it is ok if the owners get in contact with me regarding vaping gear and making juices, she said they want me to make their juices as the ones i gave her they love them.

I have told her for starters they are gonna need a poison license and probably loads more things.

Don't know what to do, i already work from 12pm too 5-6am and this on top might just drain me considering all what is going on in my life with the moving home and all that.

Might just guide them and let them do the rest



 

Not sure why they'd need a poisoners licence - I may be wrong but the limit is 72mg per ml of nic but no issue on volume - would be no problem with them mixing wholesale with 72mg base and no need for a licence (warning I am not a lawyer).  Paging Frogster (The Alchemist) to the thread as this is his area of expertise

But given they have no brand I suspect they'd be better sourcing cheap Hangseng/Dekang and selling that at B&M prices and maybe talking to the big UK names in juice (say T Juice etc) and seeing what the wholesale price is and selling that rather than mixing their own.  Hell even given economies of scale I suspect they'd be a decent profit margin in selling joose juice's stuff at consumer prices through a b&m shop as opposed to mixing their own - never mind if they could do a wholesale deal with them.

[Frogster (The Alchemist)]

Hi Ho.....

The current Legislation is a minefield, it is changing and regulation is coming, sensible regulation will be good for everyone but there will be lot's of casualties when it happens.

However, looking at legislation as it is currently, It is true to say that lots of regulation is already in place that covers various areas of our trade, even if they are spread through various bodies like trading standards, etc.

I would agree with the posters who say be mindful about making and supplying e-liquid for resale. You could be opening yourself up to all sorts of potential claims not to mention fines / enforcement from official bodies if you get it wrong or do something you should not, either by mistake or from ignorance.

There has been a huge growth in small scale "Juice Makers" of late, I think they see £££ signs in their eyes, (and this is my personal view) the majority lack the ability, knowledge or finance to operate this type of business in a safe and responsible way. They are not interested in investment in long term, things like proper business premises, clean rooms, Labs, product testing, insurance, quality sourced components, batch traceability, certification, etc. As all this costs money.... and lots of it! Trust me - It is not as easy or as cheap as everyone thinks.

Next time you buy some cheap juice think about this..... Cheap Juice is Cheap for a reason!

Don't get me wrong, I welcome new juice makers who approach things in a responsible way, we have some of the best in the world, and I acknowledge that everyone has to start somewhere..... all I am saying is (and this is a general statement).... If you are going to do it... Be one of the "good ones", not the "make a quick buck" ones.

And yes, I can advise (on a consultancy basis) if required.

[Super-Shiny]

After a think about it i simply ain't got the time with all what is going on and tbh i don't feel like doing it anyway, i will however help them with what batteries etc etc to buy, what's bad and what's good, if it helps people out there stop smoking i am all for it but that's as far as i am gonna go.

I will tell them to get some of the basic juices out there and if they want some kind of luxury range then either research into themselves properly or just contact some of the big juice suppliers and maybe strike a deal or something.

They just better not come to me with silly prices that they are intending to sell their stuff, not a good move with the mood i am in