Batterys for a unkick mech mod : Most powerfull

[morbidmatty]

Have you thought of getting a vape fuse instead of protected batteries if you already got unprotected the vape fuse will protect you from mishaps and over discharge of battery I use one all the time in my nemesis clone with and without protected batteries.
Plus a little odd you panni's don't fit as I use them the most frequent with my hciger nemesis.
Or if you want MORE POWER you could always jump on FT and get their new hades 26650 mod and batteries.

[virus2k]

hehe might do that also and my nemesis also works with the panasonic batts fit so snug lol not over tight though.

[boyofford]

Mar 21, 2014 7:22:43 GMT virus2k said:

thanks for the info guys and yes i get most of the information and already new the rest
i wont be subohming well probably do it in the future but the discharge of the nemi without kick is perfect for me

but i do have 2x kicks coming from fasttech just so that i have the option to use if i wish and i probably will use it so that it regulates battery amps properly with coil instead of at full power all the time.
and as for ohms yes thats what im looking for at the minute a higher lasting battery as currently all types will use the 4.2v with my 2.0-2.2ohms attys @10w output or round about that.

as for the panasonics i have those already and they do fit the HICIGAR nemisis clone that i have.... 3400mah ones that is.

will keep a eye out for higher rated ones there are ones on amazon that are 5000mah 18650s but i think there fake lol

i also will get a better idea what my nemi is putting out when my voltage checker arrives today or tommorow and i have a expromizer arriving tommorow so i cant wait for that....
all i need is to find out where i can get all from the same website these things

wick/wire and organic cotton wool and more ejuice lol

Ah cool, with a the tankometer you'll be able to check the output from the kick, report back with what you get

My thinking is a 4.2v charged battery actually drops volts when fires a bit, but guessing a kick should not do this.

Your probably right about them batteries being fakes or at the very least exaggerated mah!

I got some ultrafire 4000mah that came with bike lights and only last 2-3days where as the torchy Panasonic 3400mahs last 10days with same usage!

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Mar 21, 2014 6:57:26 GMT izan said:

Mar 20, 2014 23:11:42 GMT chrisy said:

izan, what you say is absolutely correct, up to a point. Unfortunately Herr Ohm is not pressing the button.

There is a dynamic going on here which means it is not quite so straightforward.

I'll explain if you are interested, but it might be boring.

Thank you Chri,

I'm sure I could have been more verbose, but I just wanted to demonstrate that the faster you eat crisps, the sooner the bag is empty.

However, we are all here to learn, so, please share.

cheers
I

Assuming a 2000mAh battery, the 1.8Ohm would last 54mins. The 2.2Ohm 1hr 24mins

Other things are going on as I doubt anyone experiences this difference. So yes please share.

Edit: Should have said 'The 2.8Ohm 1hr 24mins'

[fred]

OK - I believe you have been given some good info, but I also believe you have overlooked one crucial aspect of these batteries.
They were not designed for the high power drain that we use in vaping.

This means that even if a battery is rated at 3400mah (which I understand to be the VERY MAXIMUM in a 18650 due to size & chemistry), it will not necessarily perform better in a mod than say a torchy 2200mah battery.
You need to check out the battery drain curves, to see if the extra mah are actually use able in our application. No point paying extra for something you'll never be able to use! (From what I remember, its not worth paying extra for panny 3400mah, as the voltage becomes too low to run a mod at a certain point)

Hope that makes sense.
(Doesn't bother me as I don't sub ohm and don't mind carrying a few spare batts to swap out when needed.)

[virus2k]

taken on board thanks for the info`s guys

[chrisy]

Hi izan and scooby,

To keep it as simple as possible, having used Ohm's law to get the current, in order to get to the mAh battery drain we have to take into account the time the current is drawn, i.e. how long the button is pressed.

It may very well be, that in order to get a decent amount of vapour, the button is pressed for a longer time when using a higher resistance coil, increasing the energy consumed. That could explain enjay's experience that his battery lasts longer using a lower resistance coil. Other's may find the opposite and also be correct.

Where the battery itself is concerned, different usage patterns will give a different apparent capacity in practice. I'd have to look at the manufacturer's data sheets to see how much difference this would make nowadays, it's been a while since I last studied such things. Even then it might be difficult to quantify.

I know from my own limited experience that my batteries seem to last longer now than when I was struggling with poor clearo's in my first few weeks of vaping even though I'm getting more vapour now. Recently I've been trying a dual coil iClear which seems to guzzle juice, produce even more vapour but has little obvious difference in battery life. It would therefore seem to be more efficient. Is it possible that a lower resistance coil is also more efficient as it will heat up more quickly? I don't know but my gut feel is ... maybe. I can think of many variables in the process of converting liquid to vapour in a clearo, but I'm getting a little out of my comfort zone on these.

Apologies to virus2k, we might be straying a bit off-topic here. Should we perhaps start a new thread if we want to discuss it further?

Chris