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[nem]

Fitzmagus

[Fitzmagus]

May 25, 2014 10:42:20 GMT chykensa said:

Fitzmagus - a warm to you, and snow too! Please feel free to ask way if you have questions, and we'll do our best to help!

No Probs chykensa, Ill probably be taking you up on the offer,
Thanks for the welcome.

[Fitzmagus]

May 25, 2014 11:07:16 GMT nem said:

Fitzmagus

Thank you mem.

[wibble]

I'm a newbie too so thought I'd say hello

[Fitzmagus]

May 25, 2014 10:40:08 GMT Di said:

Hi Fitzmagus    to the forum!

Thanks Di

[Fitzmagus]

May 25, 2014 11:09:51 GMT wibble said:

I'm a newbie too so thought I'd say hello

Hello to you to wibble.
Thank for the welcome

[cHooBeyDoo]

Hi Fitzmagus and a warm from me too

[Fitzmagus]

May 25, 2014 11:16:07 GMT cHooBeyDoo said:

Hi Fitzmagus and a warm from me too

Thanks cHooBeyDoo.

[chykensa]

See, we really are as friendly as we say! We've all been where you are at the moment, so understand the frustrations and potential problems you may encounter. And everyone's happy to write a few lines to help out a fellow vaper!

[Deleted]

May 25, 2014 11:04:42 GMT Fitzmagus said:

May 25, 2014 10:36:39 GMT @windows said:

Hi and welcome
What sort of mods do you want to get into ie mechanical or vv/vw. Also whats your budget as mods and atties can run from very cheap clones to very pricey hi end stuff.

Thanks for the Welcome windows

Answer to you question, Im not to choosey when it come to vv/vw or mechanical as long as the quality is good and they perform well.
I am sort of heading in the direction of beening a collector, I just can`t help myself "But i do like the high end stuff"
Find it a bit hard to justify the price they demand.

Thanks

True they are pricey but then you have to take into account that most mod makers are small companies that put a lot of r and d into designing a product . Then there's the cost of tooling and manufacture only to have some far eastern sweat shop come along and copy it with no thought about the quality.
I have bought clones and own a couple now but theres a def difference in quality compared to the original. Examples of this are threads in coil posts stripping when tightening, o rings that are a loose fit etc.
The worse one ive had was a trident clone that didnt have enough slot cut in the coil screws to even get the tip of a screwdriver in making the atty unusable. Im not saying all clones are like this far from it, there are some good ones out there.
What do think however is that the vaping community should support the mod makers out there that are pushing the design envelope and coming up with new stuff otherwise the innervaters will die out.
I do understand that buget dictates a purchase but what I tend to do is try the cheap clone first and if its something that I really like save my pocket money to buy the real McCoy, that way im supporting the guys who designed it.

[Perpetua]

A warm welcome to you Fitzmagus, good to have your company on the forum.

And congratulations on your smoke free time so far.



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[wibble]

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[Mrsmac]

Hi there and a warm welcome to AAEC

[Fitzmagus]

May 25, 2014 11:39:46 GMT @windows said:

May 25, 2014 11:04:42 GMT Fitzmagus said:

Thanks for the Welcome windows

Answer to you question, Im not to choosey when it come to vv/vw or mechanical as long as the quality is good and they perform well.
I am sort of heading in the direction of beening a collector, I just can`t help myself "But i do like the high end stuff"
Find it a bit hard to justify the price they demand.

Thanks

True they are pricey but then you have to take into account that most mod makers are small companies that put a lot of r and d into designing a product . Then there's the cost of tooling and manufacture only to have some far eastern sweat shop come along and copy it with no thought about the quality.
I have bought clones and own a couple now but theres a def difference in quality compared to the original. Examples of this are threads in coil posts stripping when tightening, o rings that are a loose fit etc.
The worse one ive had was a trident clone that didnt have enough slot cut in the coil screws to even get the tip of a screwdriver in making the atty unusable. Im not saying all clones are like this far from it, there are some good ones out there.
What do think however is that the vaping community should support the mod makers out there that are pushing the design envelope and coming up with new stuff otherwise the innervaters will die out.
I do understand that buget dictates a purchase but what I tend to do is try the cheap clone first and if its something that I really like save my pocket money to buy the real McCoy, that way im supporting the guys who designed it.

Yes i total agree with you, about our local engineering maufactures haveing to put a lot of work into the designing r/d and tooling of a new product.
And yes im all in favour of keeping our cash in our local economy. But the fact is that in production of new innovative products that are comming onto a global market,
by there very nature will be copied in there basic design.
This is happening to fill the demand and supply to the consumer. No matter which country is picking up the gauntlet.
All you have to do to get the full realization of this fact, is to look at our engineering and industrial heritage.
It wastnt that long ago, that you wouldnt have seen a far eastern car or motorcycle on our roads, Infact if you did happen to come across any, there was usually a derogatory remark about the quallity.
Now look where we our with are car and motorcyce industry.
Yes im all for, if you want good quality, buy local.
Unfortunetly what this means is high labour costs, which in turn is past on to the customer, so unless you have deep pockets,
it meens that the majority of our society will buy with prudence based on there budget.
I would love to see a way around this quandary, but alas, this is the modern global market we find ourselves in.

[Fitzmagus]

May 25, 2014 12:01:33 GMT Mrsmac said:

Hi there and a warm welcome to AAEC

Thank you Mrsmac.