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Post by Pinhead on Feb 24, 2011 20:59:48 GMT
I just think it would be impossible to copyright the basics of a battery connected to a heating element. And as most mods are made from something else that has been converted, how would they be easily copyrighted? Most makers of the original parts would shy away from any home-made conversions regardless of their purpose, imho. Anyway, apologies for taking your thread off topic mate. :-[ Sean ![;D](//storage.proboards.com/2973975/images/uKg77DgrQpkBFJJN7U0P.gif)
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Post by tony2stix on Feb 24, 2011 21:02:56 GMT
Do you think I have lost a sale there ???
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Post by vaped on Feb 24, 2011 21:07:01 GMT
What batts and atty connection does the juicebox have Tony?
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Post by tony2stix on Feb 24, 2011 21:18:14 GMT
Hi Atty whatever you require 510 or 901,battery wise I don't supply them, it takes a 14500 Thanks Tony ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by vaped on Feb 24, 2011 21:24:51 GMT
Cheers, already got 14500 mod, was looking for something bigger ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by James on Feb 24, 2011 22:08:35 GMT
Wohha.
Sorry I did not mean to start a massive debate, lol I will register when my email comes back, virgin tell me it should be fixed tomorrow.
All I was asking as a new person to vaping is why folks copy mods. I'm not saying one is better than the other as I don't have one yet.
All I was saying was I would be annoyed if my product was copied, evolved etc and I came up with the idea, lol
Is one better than the other, prob not. But I would be a little embarrassed in putting a copy up for sale. I look down on the guys selling RayBan copies in the market, lol So that was my question.
Is it that ecigs are just boxes etc. And the modders just copy each other and try and improve for a quick sale with a light, colour to drive prices down etc? Or are they all just looking for a quick sale of the next best thing. There seems to be nothing in it for the guy who invented the original mod. Just to be ripped. And there seems to be no thought in producing something unique. as why bother just copy the other bloke and sell a few.
Even the Chinese copy mods and it becomes the next big must buy. I have researched a lot since my 1st ecig purchase. Which I rapidy binned, lol
Not aimed at you Tony but in my 2 months of vaping I have not been involved in forums as they all have their fan boys, lol And my forthcoming views are not always apreshiated, ???
I am a bit disappointed in the UK moddind lot TBH. Come on guys give me the next big thing and try and hold on to it, lol
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Post by vaped on Feb 24, 2011 22:29:45 GMT
I remember a few people were annoyed when Garry brought out his mods, with accusations of copying. As far as I know a lot of the stuff is available on the net showing you how to make boxmods and the like with some good guides. I doubt anyones going to claim design rights to them ![;D](//storage.proboards.com/2973975/images/uKg77DgrQpkBFJJN7U0P.gif) There will be one I suspect. The first device which used big batteries was the ScrewDriver. (That became available to buy) and see how many people have copied that. Or used it as a guide to create there own. A lot of people even nicked the name. Now the name SD gets used for all sorts of copycat devices but really theres only 2 real SDs. The ones Trog makes and the ones he's licensed to be made in China. Theres no blatent rip offs going on here as far as I can see. Its not like they're being sold for £70. More like helping people out who cant make there own, or vapers that can't afford to pay a lot of money for the latest greatest invention. Just my 2c ![;D](//storage.proboards.com/2973975/images/uKg77DgrQpkBFJJN7U0P.gif)
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Post by Perpetua on Feb 24, 2011 22:32:54 GMT
Nothing wrong with starting a debate James, that's what the forum is for . . . I haven't the technical know how to even contemplate 'modding' however I am an enthusiastic purchaser of vaping devices . . . why, because vaping has become more than just a 'smoking replacement' for me, it's become a hobby and I'd suspect that's part of the motivation for building your own device. . . . the sheer pleasure of the build and then the satisfaction of constructing a device that works. No different really to making a home/garden beautiful, building/renovating a classic car . . . the list is endless, but it's something you've put a bit of you into it, to achieve. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by tony2stix on Feb 24, 2011 22:35:20 GMT
Hi James no probs, I am not here to make any money as you can see with my prices ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Its good to debate things, it keeps you going, It sounds like you have done your homework in the vaping world, and that is a good thing, when I started vapin the money I waisted on the first PV I saw, I wished I found forums like this one and did my homework like yourself,I make mods for people to enjoy and use for only the price of the parts. I am working on other things like other good members on this site, and to be really truthful James I would love someone to copy my mod like one of the best modders I now of cisco, anyhow that is only my opinion, I hope to have more discussions with you again James, I hope you find what you are looking for mate, and if you need any help in making that decision, then I and other members on this good forum will only be pleased to help you. Tony2
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Post by James on Feb 24, 2011 22:42:19 GMT
LOL not saying there are rip off's, lol It's just all I see in the modding threads are folks all doing the same. Yeah the Garden thing has some truth. We all have grass, flowers etc and all want them to look nice. But I would not want mine to look like nextdoors, lol.
All I asking is why folks try to do the sam as what is out there, has the UK lost out drive to be inventive.
Read a US modding thread and each one seems to have a unique selling point. the UK seems to just go with the flow as to what sells.
Reading some threads the SD is a torch but the modder says he invented the shape etc, lol
No vision.
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Post by tony2stix on Feb 24, 2011 23:02:13 GMT
Hi James me again, I now you aren't aiming things at me personally ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/2973975/images/30yfTjP3QPippj7hX3wK.gif) , I don't now where you are based, but saying that the U.K has 'No Vision' IMHO thats a load of bollo--s James, the country who brought the world the T,V, telephone and the Web, so please don't say that U.K has no vision ![;D](//storage.proboards.com/2973975/images/uKg77DgrQpkBFJJN7U0P.gif) Tony
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Post by James on Feb 24, 2011 23:10:04 GMT
No not aimed at you. Just the ecig modding UK base. All the new ideas seem to come from the US and we copy. The past is the past I'm talking about the future of ecigs. I read the US forums and two months later a UK modder claims the idea, lol Where are our new mods in the UK?
All I'm saying is why copy invent. I read about your copper tube passthrough. That I would purchase as it was different so why do a version of one out there? Again not personal just asking. Is it easier to sell a product that sells of risk you own. Please don't take this the wrong way. Just a question.
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Post by tony2stix on Feb 24, 2011 23:26:27 GMT
No probs James, To answer your question The copper PT I think thats what you are on about? If anyone wants to purchase one then they are quite welcome to, I made that for myself as a personal PV Tony
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Post by James on Feb 24, 2011 23:57:52 GMT
Tony a pitch is not an answer, lol My question was. That I would purchase as it was different so why do a version of one out there? See this is why I get banned from forums I do like a propper answer, lol
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Post by mrlimbo on Feb 25, 2011 1:04:02 GMT
James your missing the point , its the price ! and how different can you make a battery ? And going by your warped logic , there should only be one make of car ! as all others just get you from A to B LOL The troll got a bite ![;D](//storage.proboards.com/2973975/images/uKg77DgrQpkBFJJN7U0P.gif)
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