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Post by Dan on Sept 8, 2014 10:03:49 GMT
That just confused me more lol, the middle one looks wider...but that's a 4.0?! I know, the foggers are confusing and it doesn't help that they get referred to as the oldest 4.0 being 4.0 the older 4.0 as 4.1 and the 4.1ultimate as the 4.2. Very confusing. Or maybe it just confused the hell out of me and I got it all back to front ???
From what I understand, they are up to 4.3 at present.. 4.2 has small deck, 4.3 has largr deck.
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Post by boyofford on Sept 8, 2014 10:13:45 GMT
I own the 4.1, it has a smaller deck but larger capacity and and airer draw...ver airy, IMO it handles higher power better compared to the kayfun when above 17 watts. The build is a pita to first set up but it's not a deal breaker The clone is no cheaper than the original, I got an original for around £30 I think ....but since I'm mainly using my rose (x3 lol) its took a back seat. Could be up for a trade if you are still interested in getting one?? Interesting, so the smaller deck one has airer draw? well suppose should be looking at that then. they are so confusing lol.
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Post by Cousin Itt on Sept 8, 2014 10:51:20 GMT
I`m thinking of drilling mine out too Dan. Not much to loose . Probably have to bin the air flow ring as that blocks 1/2 the holes already and then it will look cack . I'm going to "modify" the airflow ring by removing the smaller flange so it becomes functional. Just don't know if I have the steady hand to modify the juice channels! Ill try the air flow first then maybe faff with the juice channels after if I`m still not happy so I can see what did what to the performance . Ive got a big miller and rotary table so altering the juice channels won`t take 10 mins. If nothing works I`ll shoot it with my airgun
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Post by arron on Sept 8, 2014 10:51:16 GMT
Showing the differences between the v4.4 and v4.3, air holes down to 1.5mm(x2) a direct lung inhale is achievable when afc is fully open. Not as airy compared to say a zenith or omega rda but still good flow for an rba
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Post by Dan on Sept 8, 2014 13:45:49 GMT
I'm going to "modify" the airflow ring by removing the smaller flange so it becomes functional. Just don't know if I have the steady hand to modify the juice channels! Ill try the air flow first then maybe faff with the juice channels after if I`m still not happy so I can see what did what to the performance . Ive got a big miller and rotary table so altering the juice channels won`t take 10 mins. If nothing works I`ll shoot it with my airgun It will definitely improve with more airflow but I think the juice channels will need work to take full advantage.. all I have is a cheap dremel so I will wait on you doing it properly before I even try! Going to be a bit of a bodge with my limited tools selection regardless
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Post by Dan on Sept 8, 2014 13:54:17 GMT
Showing the differences between the v4.4 and v4.3, air holes down to 1.5mm(x2) a direct lung inhale is achievable when afc is fully open. Not as airy compared to say a zenith or omega rda but still good flow for an rba Which is which? Mine says 4.0 on it but doesn't have the copper screw.. confused.com!
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Post by ronaldo on Sept 8, 2014 14:03:40 GMT
I personally don't think you can beat the fogger V2 I have 2 of them and they are great
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Post by Ripshod on Sept 8, 2014 14:50:28 GMT
I believe the latest version (mine) which is the 4.4 is actually marked the 4.1 just to confuse matters....will go check now You're right arron, I remember the thread like it's on the inside of my eyelids. Mine is defo the 4.3 but has 4.0 on the tank Currently got mine dual coiled @ 0.5 ohms (30 watts calculated)and it lives up to it's name. Flavour wise it's up there with the Rose. I love it even more cos it's the one I learned to coil on, kinda threw myself in at the deep end. Once you get them right they're banging tanks, and easy to repeat a good build on.
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Post by hijack on Sept 8, 2014 15:41:00 GMT
An amusing read even those that have them have to go check so they know what version to describe it as, it sure aint what it says on the tin. Vendors don't know what to call it, myepack is selling it as the 4.1 ultimate which according to the above pics everyone is calling it the 4.4. So the one with the big deck is the 4.3 which has 4.0 stamped on it and the one with the small deck that has 4.1 on it is the 4.4?
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Post by Ripshod on Sept 8, 2014 16:05:26 GMT
An amusing read even those that have them have to go check so they know what version to describe it as, it sure aint what it says on the tin. Vendors don't know what to call it, myepack is selling it as the 4.1 ultimate which according to the above pics everyone is calling it the 4.4. So the one with the big deck is the 4.3 which has 4.0 stamped on it and the one with the small deck that has 4.1 on it is the 4.4? Just sooooo true m8. On the box 4.3, on the tank 4.0. So damned confusing, but at least a few of us have our heads around it No wonder I don't see any clones, what the heck would they call them
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Post by Cousin Itt on Sept 8, 2014 17:19:50 GMT
Ill try the air flow first then maybe faff with the juice channels after if I`m still not happy so I can see what did what to the performance . Ive got a big miller and rotary table so altering the juice channels won`t take 10 mins. If nothing works I`ll shoot it with my airgun It will definitely improve with more airflow but I think the juice channels will need work to take full advantage.. all I have is a cheap dremel so I will wait on you doing it properly before I even try! Going to be a bit of a bodge with my limited tools selection regardless What you reckon Dan Air holes were approx 1.5mm Now 2mm Put a little groove / dimple on the side of the deck so with a wiggle I can get a syringe into the tank Juice slots were 2mm so Ive opened them to 3mm and made them slightly deeper And last thing . I machined off about 1/3rd of the air flow ring and I`m nearly getting full clearance on the 2mm air holes Just need to give it a good wash and chuck some coils in to see if its better or fked Might do that tomorrow .
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Post by boyofford on Sept 8, 2014 19:48:19 GMT
An amusing read even those that have them have to go check so they know what version to describe it as, it sure aint what it says on the tin. Vendors don't know what to call it, myepack is selling it as the 4.1 ultimate which according to the above pics everyone is calling it the 4.4. So the one with the big deck is the 4.3 which has 4.0 stamped on it and the one with the small deck that has 4.1 on it is the 4.4? Glad to hear it wern't me just being simple!
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Post by Dan on Sept 8, 2014 19:53:10 GMT
It will definitely improve with more airflow but I think the juice channels will need work to take full advantage.. all I have is a cheap dremel so I will wait on you doing it properly before I even try! Going to be a bit of a bodge with my limited tools selection regardless What you reckon Dan Air holes were approx 1.5mm Now 2mm Put a little groove / dimple on the side of the deck so with a wiggle I can get a syringe into the tank Juice slots were 2mm so Ive opened them to 3mm and made them slightly deeper And last thing . I machined off about 1/3rd of the air flow ring and I`m nearly getting full clearance on the 2mm air holes Just need to give it a good wash and chuck some coils in to see if its better or fked Might do that tomorrow . I think that in the name of vaping nirvana, you should get it cleaned up and setup tonight! Then you can quote me for the same work on mine
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Post by Cousin Itt on Sept 8, 2014 20:13:07 GMT
Been a long day today so I`ll give it a go tomorrow Dan . Hopefully I find the right amount of channel wick first go Sat down chilling now with some awesome tangerine e liquid
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Post by Cousin Itt on Sept 9, 2014 18:28:09 GMT
Well Ive given it a try Dan . Went with .5 ohm twisted coils and wicked it like picture below. Thoughts . Much more vapor , much better airflow . I don`t know if the vapor improvement is mainly having the lower ohm coils or not ? seams a lot better than when I had a .7 ohm in it in standard set up. Finding .5 a bit on the hot side but I`ll give it a run and see if I get to like it . Flavour doesn`t seam stunning but I`m using a not so great juice at the mo as I didn`t want to waste any of my favorite ones in case it was crap . I vape this off and recoil it a bit higher and chuck some snake oil in it in a day or so .
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