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Post by DiscoDes on Jan 22, 2012 22:47:37 GMT
Has the carto gone open circuit (coil broken)? Was it still making contact? I find I have to keep pulling up the centre pin on the LT if I chanbe from the Imist to the tank?
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Post by Gordy on Jan 22, 2012 22:49:14 GMT
could be worth a dissection to see if its the actual coil that is failing ...seems very strange indeed... ive never had a carto fail, just fade way
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Post by womble on Jan 23, 2012 10:23:59 GMT
Has the carto gone open circuit (coil broken)? Was it still making contact? I find I have to keep pulling up the centre pin on the LT if I chanbe from the Imist to the tank? Yes I checked again and it was an open circuit. I maybe shouldn't get too carried away here, it was only one carto on the new LT and I'd had a nights vaping out of it.
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Post by womble on Jan 23, 2012 10:28:25 GMT
could be worth a dissection to see if its the actual coil that is failing ...seems very strange indeed... ive never had a carto fail, just fade way I took it apart last night, but it's not easy and I couldn't see if anything was broken. Has anyone got a link to an expanded Boge carto? Where someone has taken it apart and what it's supposed to look like. I did look, but couldn't find anything. But I'm sure I've seen one before. The insulated wire was in one piece, the coil looked ok, although much tighter wound than I expected, it looked like a tiny spring. The only thing I noticed was a bit of charring of the filling around the bottom of the air tube, where I presume the coil sits. Which seems to look like I was running it too dry.
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Post by womble on Jan 23, 2012 11:39:45 GMT
And another one gone I'm starting to get a little down about this. These are the 5 boges Kev sent to me. 2 gone now. I tried it last night and it was fine, gave it a very short dry burn, less than 1 sec I should think. Prepped it with lots of juice, swung it in the griz wiz, left it over night. Just tried it now on the LT, dead as a dodo. I've got yet another one, which I've dry fired 10 times in the LT and I am now condom filling it. I'm only putting Vermillion river juice in them, not acid!
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Post by Perpetua on Jan 23, 2012 12:23:28 GMT
Might be worth sending Kev an email, just to see if he's had any other customer's with similar issues Womble. . . although I'm not sure why you're dry firing them, even if it is only for a short time?
Unless it's to see if they do indeed have life, before filling with juice?
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Post by VE Jason on Jan 23, 2012 12:36:54 GMT
Agree with Perpy, you should never dry fire any carto with wadding in that hasn't already been filled with liquid.
If you want to check it first, best to use a multi meter.
There were some QC issues at Boge a while ago with a batch or two, that were distributed to a couple of the Chinese wholesale vendors. Boge have been looking into it, but that's all I know at the moment.
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Post by womble on Jan 23, 2012 12:38:48 GMT
Might be worth sending Kev an email, just to see if he's had any other customer's with similar issues Womble. . . although I'm not sure why you're dry firing them, even if it is only for a short time? Unless it's to see if they do indeed have life, before filling with juice? I know he looks here now and again anyway, but I need to do some more testing first. Yes, the dry firing is indeed to test them before I fill them with juice. I dry fired the one I filled last night, then spend ages filling it with juice, then it didn't work when I put it on the LT? I mean, where could I have gone wrong? So this time I dry fired it a few times, so it proves that it wasn't the first initial firing that is killing them. Any advice, re what I might be doing wrong, would be gratefully received, no matter how idiotic it involves me being!
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Post by womble on Jan 23, 2012 12:40:08 GMT
Agree with Perpy, you should never dry fire any carto with wadding in that hasn't already been filled with liquid. If you want to check it first, best to use a multi meter. There were some QC issues at Boge a while ago with a batch or two, that were distributed to a couple of the Chinese wholesale vendors. Boge have been looking into it, but that's all I know at the moment. I shouldn't dry fire them at all? Oh dear.
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Post by Perpetua on Jan 23, 2012 12:42:52 GMT
It's the dry firing I reckon Womble . . . whether you're doing it once or a number of times, you're burning out the gubbins . . . some are just more resistant than others would be my guess.
Humour me, fill one . . . don't dry fire it first, then see how you get on using it. It'll either confirm or refute the hunch.
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Post by grizwald56 on Jan 23, 2012 12:47:28 GMT
And don't forget that once you fill it to let it stand for while to make sure the juice soaks right through.
I always leave mine for an hour at least.
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Post by womble on Jan 23, 2012 12:52:09 GMT
It's the dry firing I reckon Womble . . . whether you're doing it once or a number of times, you're burning out the gubbins . . . some are just more resistant than others would be my guess. Humour me, fill one . . . don't dry fire it first, then see how you get on using it. It'll either confirm or refute the hunch. With the last LT, the only reason I dry fired the last one, because the last two had died as soon as I put them on the LT. I shall try and hope it's that easy. Still doesn't explain the first one (on the new LT) dying, unless I did run it too dry. Well, I shan't dry fire them anymore, but use a multimeter to check them. Thanks
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Post by womble on Jan 23, 2012 12:52:46 GMT
And don't forget that once you fill it to let it stand for while to make sure the juice soaks right through. I always leave mine for an hour at least. Yes I shall do that as well in the future. Thanks
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Post by womble on Jan 24, 2012 9:50:30 GMT
I'm sure everyone is bored with this by now, but I thought I'd update.
So far one evenings vaping, both cartos, (dry tested and not) are fine.
I've kept the LT on 3.7V though atm, just in case it was the higher voltage that was the culprit.
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Post by FreedomVape on Jan 24, 2012 12:22:46 GMT
Womble, I noticed that you are having a similar issue with the new LT but I think you have already found the solution.
As I said in the e-mail, I tested the returned one and it was ok using a range of differently branded cartos, but I did manage to kill a Smokeymizer by letting it run dry and firing it a couple of times so definitely something to avoid as the Smokeys are really quite superb on the LT and last months I have found.
If you do have any further probs just PM me but hopefully keeping the cartos wet will do the trick.
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