Vape mail today

[rednutt]

Thanks Mrsmac. Just looked over at my battery once you said this and screen has went blank and charging icon disappeared. Charged while on. Now I know what I'm looking for.
You have the magic touch

[Resnik]

That last recipe (3rd) for Mothers Milk Is probably the closest. That's one of my all day vapes. Nice set up there rednutt. Everyone keeps getting these tiny Isticks. I wonder if they can handle my low ohm builds. I'm starting to like the look of them.

[chykensa]

Resnik I'm sure I've read somewhere that it will fire down to about .6ohms - can anyone else corroborate this please? They are super little devices, that's for sure. Ideal for pocket use, and I still can't believe it packs such a punch after using it daily for the last 2 weeks

[Pepperty]

I thought they were strictly 1 ohm and above? but then I don't build under that so wouldn't be testing!
I keep loosing my istick to my teenager, and I cant wait until xmas to get it back (shes got the pink one as a stocking filler) so I'm awaiting the silver from fasttech, she'll end up having two I bet!

I'm looking to doing a milkshake mix soon as one of my swapsies/classies juice was a cheap and cheerful strawberry - enjuice valuevape -milkshake and I've really enjoyed it! I really need to spend half hour jotting down my concentrates as my lovely prepped list and concentrates excell document is lost forever on my old PC, and when I look at recipes I cant quite recall if I have all the ingredients....

[rednutt]

How on earth can anyone turn the istick up to 20w. Mine is mostly on lowest setting and max I can go is 5.5w Anything higher I get the burnt taste. Any coil I have on it is between 1.8 and 2.2 ohms.
Do you need to be using a really high ohms coil and if so what's the point?

[Resnik]

That's rather odd. You should be able to turn it up and keep from getting a burnt taste. I don't have a lot of experience with pre built coils and the istick though so I can't be much help. I do have a DNA 30 and I can go all the way to 30 with a nautilus and never get a burnt taste. Just gets hotter as it goes up in wattage. Sounds to me like you might be having a flow issue or something with your atomizer not getting enough juice to the wicking material in the cartridge.

[rednutt]

It's iclear16s it happening with. My evod and protanks have micro coils in them and seem fine fine turning them up.
A really strange thing is happening though Resnik . The iclear16 that has mothers milk in burns at 4.2watts not volts on istick yet I put that same iclear on my itaste at 7 watts and it's fine. Swap back onto my istick and burnt again??? Am I losing the plot?

[chykensa]

rednutt - I'm not an expert on this new-fangled elecktrickery, but I think it's something to do with the fact the that power is delivered to the coil in a different way, something to do with Pulse Width Modulation as opposed to RMS (?), and as a result the iStick displays a lower reading than the actual power delivered.
I'm sure someone more up with the electronics world will elaborate on this pre-'O' Level Physics mess

[rednutt]

Tricky wee sticky eh chykensa ?

[chykensa]

rednutt - I'll tag VapingBad and Tom, they are both more experienced in these matter than I. Let's hope they can cast a bit more light on your problem

[VapingBad]

Nov 25, 2014 20:50:45 GMT rednutt said:

It's iclear16s it happening with. My evod and protanks have micro coils in them and seem fine fine turning them up.
A really strange thing is happening though Resnik . The iclear16 that has mothers milk in burns at 4.2watts not volts on istick yet I put that same iclear on my itaste at 7 watts and it's fine. Swap back onto my istick and burnt again??? Am I losing the plot?

There is a mismatch between the power (or voltage) shown on the screen and what's delivered to the atty compared to other mods, at lower power (and voltage) settings the out put is higher than with other mods, it will be out the most at the low end for the range and accurate at the high end.  I will still be quite over in the middle.

It is not wrong because the output is only really at one voltage it simulates lower voltages by turning it off and on very quickly.  This is known as pulse width modulation (PWM) and to arrive a a single number of what this is equivalent to as a single the iStick gives you the average.  Because the coil retains heat and doesn't cool or instantly during the on/off cycles the equivalent heat is higher than the average so the method used for heating elements powered this way is a special version of an average call Root Mean Square (RMS) and most other mods use this so hence the mismatch.

I can go into mire detail, but doubt it would be helpful.

[aliscampbell]

I've found the higher the ohm of your coil the better, it won't fire under 1 ohm as stated above by Pepperty. 2.2 ohms works great. Never used an iclear rednutt but wonder if the wicking can keep up with it?

[chykensa]

Thanks VapingBad, I know you could explain it far better than me!
aliscampbell has a good point there - as the iClear 16 is a top coil, the wicks need to be well soaked in juice all the time, especially if the coils are being worked hard at a higher power than is displayed, as VB explained above.
You could try any of the bottom coil atomisers like the Protanks, Aerotank or Aspire Mini, to name but a few. As the coil is at the bottom of the tank it is always covered in juice, and the wicking is better for this reason.

[VapingBad]

Nov 25, 2014 23:38:00 GMT aliscampbell said:

I've found the higher the ohm of your coil the better, it won't fire under 1 ohm as stated above by Pepperty. 2.2 ohms works great. Never used an iclear rednutt but wonder if the wicking can keep up with it?

That's because the inaccuracy is in the voltage not the wattage per se, but the wattage uses the voltage in its calcs, so for higher res  the voltage is higher for a given wattage and less inaccurate, if that makes sense.

[VapingBad]

Sometimes the RMS is refereed to the equivalent heating power/rate or something like that, can't find a link.