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Post by womble on Jan 28, 2012 12:39:37 GMT
From someone's great post the other day, I got the impression that we only absorb about 10% of the nicotine in the e-juice.
So my question is, what happens to the other 90%?
Because it's always being said that it's perfectly safe and only water vapour that we exhale.
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Post by DiscoDes on Jan 28, 2012 12:43:28 GMT
It dissipates in the air. I don't think a lungfull is much over 2 litres, therefore you'd need a lot of lungfulls in an average size room to affect anyone else much. And that's assuming there is no ventialtion.
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Post by womble on Jan 28, 2012 12:46:11 GMT
But it does mean that if we are vaping next to a kid for example, they will be taking in small amounts of nicotine. Mmmm.
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Post by DiscoDes on Jan 28, 2012 12:50:13 GMT
If you don't want your kids to have any nicotine (which is not seen as a carcinogen and in small doses no proven health detriment) then you'd better not give them anything containing Tomatoes. OBVIOUSLY don't blow it in their faces!
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Post by womble on Jan 28, 2012 12:52:06 GMT
I wish my kids would eat tomatoes
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Post by DiscoDes on Jan 28, 2012 13:20:50 GMT
I wish my kids would eat tomatoes There is tomatoes in Sauce, beans, Pizza etc.......
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Post by Gordy on Jan 28, 2012 15:18:40 GMT
i dont think anyone has done trials to see how much nicotine is exhaled in vapour so at the moment its all a bit of guesswork. logically thinking tho there will be some nicotine exhaled and i wouldn't be too concerned about second hand vapour as much as the nicotine settling on surfaces and building up then being picked up and ingested from the fingers of children and indeed cats.
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Post by Gordy on Jan 28, 2012 15:19:58 GMT
before anyone points it out ...i do know cats dont have fingers
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Post by Jemima on Jan 28, 2012 16:27:24 GMT
I wouldn't worry about it to much Womble, a small surface residue is probably gonna happen as with most things. I'm sure if you got the air in your home tested it wouldnt be all fresh country air quality but there would be traces of exhaust emissions etc in it.
My hubby has been an ex smoker for nearly 10 years and he hasn't suddenly started following me around the house to get a nic fix or licking the furniture lol
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Post by womble on Jan 28, 2012 16:34:03 GMT
i dont think anyone has done trials to see how much nicotine is exhaled in vapour so at the moment its all a bit of guesswork. logically thinking tho there will be some nicotine exhaled and i wouldn't be too concerned about second hand vapour as much as the nicotine settling on surfaces and building up then being picked up and ingested from the fingers of children and indeed cats. That's a good point and one I hadn't thought of. I think I'll mostly keep my vaping to my office room from now on. When you think about it, if we absorb 10% of the nicotine in a vape, that's enough to give us a hit, what would it do to a kid if you vaped for a long time in a room. Because there's still the other 90% hanging around somewhere. I think I just need to be a bit more careful, we are dealing with an unknown here after all.
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Post by domesticextremist on Jan 28, 2012 16:45:10 GMT
i dont think anyone has done trials to see how much nicotine is exhaled in vapour so at the moment its all a bit of guesswork. logically thinking tho there will be some nicotine exhaled and i wouldn't be too concerned about second hand vapour as much as the nicotine settling on surfaces and building up then being picked up and ingested from the fingers of children and indeed cats. Stay away from catnip flavoured juice (or anything else your cat likes - one of my mum's cats had an unhealthy liking for the taste of bleach!).
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Post by ckc on Jan 28, 2012 18:28:57 GMT
Womble, i read that nearly all the nic is absorbed but absorbed through the nose/mouth tissue,i've seen something somewhere.Because it isn't absorbed through the lung like nic in cigs it isn't as efficiant(sp?) so peeps need to vape more.
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Post by grizwald56 on Jan 28, 2012 22:00:31 GMT
I saw this debated on one of the US forums early last year, can't remember which one though, and it was reckoned that 30% - 40% is burnt away by the atty/carto before you get to inhale anything, which means that only around 65% is actually inhaled.
Weather or not this is true, is I think debateable. But then it was also reckoned that the ammount exhaled was miniscule, around 2% -5%, which isn't a great deal if true.
I suppose the only way to really know would be for some boffin in a lab to have someone exhale some vapour into some machine that can measure the nicotine ammount.
However as most cigarettes are around 18mg (1.8%) and that you would only have one every half hour or so, there may well be some truth to the above as there are those who vape 36mg (3.6%) continuously throughout the day without feeling nauseus.
I vape continuously throughout the day at 20mg and feel fine, I certainly couldn't have smoked in this manner, so perhaps there could be some truth to it, who knows.
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Post by Gordy on Jan 29, 2012 0:09:53 GMT
i think i read somewhere that cigarettes have something in them so you absorb the nicotine quicker hence the nicotine 'hit' effect you get from a cigarette ....also i read that smoking menthol cigarettes significantly inhibit the metabolism of nicotine, dunno if menthol juice would have the same effect ??
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Post by Anne (fuzzy) on Jan 29, 2012 0:47:32 GMT
What do those contraptions measure that you have to blow in to at the NHS quit smoking clinics? Apparently they can prove if you've smoked or not since your last clinic visit.
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