A few questions

[Martin]

Since vaping...

I've noticed my skin feels soft and slightly oily but it looks healthy and feels nice..

1: do you think that's a result of (not smoking analogues, or the oils from the ejuice)? maybe both but my skin looks much better than it ever has.


2: I've gotten quite a bit of ejuice (I wish there was another name for it haha, anyway) in my mouth from overfilling I think, only on my lip and it actually tastes quite nice and sweet etc, but I spit it out.. (will I be ok? ) I guess so as I'm still typing this..


3: does anyone know how quickly the juice is likely to loose is toxicity on the skin, or once you've spilt a bit on your hand etc.. if for example a tiny bit of juice drips onto your hand, then you wipe your hand with a tissue and then stroke your pet etc.. would juice harm your pet, or would it be wise to go and completely wash your hands etc when the slighest bit of ejuice is on it (How strong/toxic) is this stuff?



4: what are the common symptoms of too much nicotene from ecigs, are they likely to match the same symptoms from too much nicotene with analogues?


5: If you just draw the vapor into your mouth, then exhale through your nose (ie, dont do the throat hit) is the vapor still going in your lungs or is it going in but much less sort of thing..


6: Can't remember what 6 was...*might come back to that one*

Thanks

M

[warlordxxx - (Mark)]

1: possibly both but probably more likely to be no more smoking as that ages skin.

2: No problems at all a drop here and there won't cause you any harm if your heart starts beating quite fast hold off vaping until it feels normal again (overvape)

3: wash your hands before touching your pets eliquid isn't very good for animals and although you probably only have a small trace left on your skin better that than sick animals

4: Faster heart beat, a feeling in your stomach like you are full and possible tightening in the lungs ( i say possible as i have had a lung op and it might just be me on this one) forgot to add headaches- this will dissapear much quicker than it does with analogs

5: depends if you take it into your lungs that's where it's going i should imagine you would have to concentrate very hard on not breathing to not get some in your lungs

[maccafan]

Feb 5, 2012 23:40:25 GMT Martin said:

Since vaping...

I've noticed my skin feels soft and slightly oily but it looks healthy and feels nice..

1: do you think that's a result of (not smoking analogues, or the oils from the ejuice)? maybe both but my skin looks much better than it ever has.


2: I've gotten quite a bit of ejuice (I wish there was another name for it haha, anyway) in my mouth from overfilling I think, only on my lip and it actually tastes quite nice and sweet etc, but I spit it out.. (will I be ok? ) I guess so as I'm still typing this..


3: does anyone know how quickly the juice is likely to loose is toxicity on the skin, or once you've spilt a bit on your hand etc.. if for example a tiny bit of juice drips onto your hand, then you wipe your hand with a tissue and then stroke your pet etc.. would juice harm your pet, or would it be wise to go and completely wash your hands etc when the slighest bit of ejuice is on it (How strong/toxic) is this stuff?



4: what are the common symptoms of too much nicotene from ecigs, are they likely to match the same symptoms from too much nicotene with analogues?


5: If you just draw the vapor into your mouth, then exhale through your nose (ie, dont do the throat hit) is the vapor still going in your lungs or is it going in but much less sort of thing..


6: Can't remember what 6 was...*might come back to that one*

Thanks

M

I am not gonna comment on your soft skin but if you get ejuice in your mouth or on your skin rinse it with plenty of water rather than wipe it off as nicotine is absorbed through the skin.

If you don't inhale a lot less of it is getting to your lungs. But you won't get a throat hit.

If you have too much nicotine you'll feel dizzy and nauseous and have the runs and lots more as nicotine is a poison. Nicotine is nicotine, whether from analogues or from ejuice.

[Martin]

Thanks folks, that makes a lot of sense.. and I've took notice.

Think I will maybe keep some kind baby wipes, and something with water in nearby, a couple of times I've overfilled and juice has leaked a bit on my hand, then my pet has come running over and wanted a fuss etc. ( I was aware of the toxicity etc, so never stroked him) wasn't sure if I could just wipe my hand sort of thing or needed to wash it off completely.. (I WILL not take any risk with my pet) so will try my best not to overfill and spill and make sure I wash it off completely, just a bit of a pain having to get up and run to the kitchen all the time..:S

Thanks for the all the other answers too makes a lot of sense.. I made myself a bit light headed when I got my first few juices, but I never realised one of them was high strength, so havnt made that mistake since..

And yeah, I had spontanious pnumothorax a while back, so always try to take as little vapor as possible into my lung.. I know putting anything in there probably isnt a great idea, but its' a lot better than smoking and from readin, researching many forums lots of people have had one and use ecigs for years and been fine soo..

Cheers!


M

[warlordxxx - (Mark)]

Feb 6, 2012 0:04:37 GMT Martin said:

Thanks folks, that makes a lot of sense.. and I've took notice.

Think I will maybe keep some kind baby wipes, and something with water in nearby, a couple of times I've overfilled and juice has leaked a bit on my hand, then my pet has come running over and wanted a fuss etc. ( I was aware of the toxicity etc, so never stroked him) wasn't sure if I could just wipe my hand sort of thing or needed to wash it off completely.. (I WILL not take any risk with my pet) so will try my best not to overfill and spill and make sure I wash it off completely, just a bit of a pain having to get up and run to the kitchen all the time..:S

Thanks for the all the other answers too makes a lot of sense.. I made myself a bit light headed when I got my first few juices, but I never realised one of them was high strength, so havnt made that mistake since..

And yeah, I had spontanious pnumothorax a while back, so always try to take as little vapor as possible into my lung.. I know putting anything in there probably isnt a great idea, but its' a lot better than smoking and from readin, researching many forums lots of people have had one and use ecigs for years and been fine soo..

Cheers!


M

Erm that's odd that's what i had lol i had the full scrape it remove some and seal it back up op coupled with a haemothorax caused by my first chest drain being just a smidgen too large and piercing my lung in the night yup i still feel it and get some twinges in there 10 months later on but from what my specialist told me once i had that op it could never happen on the same lung again ... Guess you are the same as me tall and skinny lol

[Anne (fuzzy)]

A woman's opinion (OPINION only!)

1. Pass, lol. (I have a skin problem ATM due to medication so can't say.)

2. Rinse your mouth with water ASAP and spit out.

3. Wash wherever spilt on your skin with anti-bacterial soap ASAP.

4. Yes. Sick feeling and dizziness, lower the nicotine level on your next order!

5. Still going into your lungs as you breathe in.

6. Will give my opinion when you remember the question. Lol

[Martin]

eek, Warlord.. yeah, same here but I never had vats or any of the other surgery, just the aspiration and chest drains.. brrrr....man, sounds like you had a much rougher time with it though eek, sorry!... not pleasant that's for sure.. pfffT.. that's what made me finally quit the analogues I had my last cig in the hospital then when I got out I found it a real struggle to quit (was easy in hospital) not so easy at home.. then I discovered ecig.. still panicked about the whole inhaling thing etc, so did loads of research on it and it seems a lot of people use ecigs for the same reason.. sooooo.. I guess as long as we keep things balanced and don't overdo it.. it will be fine.. hmm., heh, I bet there's probably a few who had spontanious SP's, I met quite a few after I came out of hospital.. and found all kinds of groups etc.. thank god for ecigs:)

And Well Ann:) I value your opinion.. "Noted"...Thank You.. Stay tuned for question 6 lol

[Anne (fuzzy)]

Feb 6, 2012 1:39:04 GMT Martin said:

I had my last cig in the hospital

Which hospital was that Martin? When I had an op. in 1982, we had to go outside to smoke! Now, they have to go right off hospital grounds. I know, you had a crafty fag in the loo!

[warlordxxx - (Mark)]

Feb 6, 2012 1:39:04 GMT Martin said:

eek, Warlord.. yeah, same here but I never had vats or any of the other surgery, just the aspiration and chest drains.. brrrr....man, sounds like you had a much rougher time with it though eek, sorry!... not pleasant that's for sure.. pfffT.. that's what made me finally quit the analogues I had my last cig in the hospital then when I got out I found it a real struggle to quit (was easy in hospital) not so easy at home.. then I discovered ecig.. still panicked about the whole inhaling thing etc, so did loads of research on it and it seems a lot of people use ecigs for the same reason.. sooooo.. I guess as long as we keep things balanced and don't overdo it.. it will be fine.. hmm., heh, I bet there's probably a few who had spontanious SP's, I met quite a few after I came out of hospital.. and found all kinds of groups etc.. thank god for ecigs:)

And Well Ann:) I value your opinion.. "Noted"...Thank You.. Stay tuned for question 6 lol

To be honest surgery was the only option as they had to open me up to repair the damage caused by the chest drain - i bled a lot they transferred me to another hospital and less than 24 hours after having a problem i was in surgery - by the time they stopped putting blood into me they racked up 5.66 litres - again luckily for me they had me hopped up on morphine almost from the word go and had an epiplural in after surgery (i loved that button) i jumped ahead of a few people because of the amount of blood i had lost but to be honest i am thankful i had the surgery although like i said i feel that it's been done even nine months later i know now that it's been done - Heard a lot of stories of people having it over and over before finally getting their surgery

[Anne (fuzzy)]

Oh hell. Horror stories, except they're not stories. What a nightmare for you (((both)))

edited to say ... and you're both so young as well

[warlordxxx - (Mark)]

Well to be honest Anne i consider myself lucky - so far (touch wood) i've gone through life with the odd cold here and there and thats about it - I'm not allergic to anything don't have to take pills apart from a headache once or twice a year so that section is really only an extremely small part of my life so far - Generally i don't do ill i've only ever had flu twice in my life and very rarely have time off sick at work (not including that incident) 6 days off work in 7 years isn't too bad going .. But there are many many vapers with weird and not so wonderful illnesses so like i said i really do consider myself lucky

[Martin]

haha, I meant outside the hospital.. .... mind you If I'd of had an ecig.. hmmm..

and oh my Warlord, sounds like it was a total nightmare, (just a routine sp is bad enough) I suppose it's quite rare there is actually such complications but omg.. soo glad they managed to get it sorted though, I can only imagine from my recent week in hospital what it must of been like though.. I still get pain now and I get paranoid with the slightest twinge, weird sensation etc, but that's normal and everyone seems to be the same after a pnuemo.. hmmm.. there doesn't seem to be much research on it either, other than".. ooh if your skinny and you smoke, there is more chance you get one etc..".

thats the other thing is it happens to moslty otherwise fully healthy individuals yet the condition or the reality of it has such a drastic effect on your life because you have to do things differently or always be aware of it etc.. crazy!..

having said that, It really kicked me up the @$$ with quiting the anologues....

[warlordxxx - (Mark)]

Me too mate was in the hospital a week and didnt even think about them didn't have a craving either til i got home .. i still have a patch of skin just at the bottom of my ribcage where i can't feel a thing it's very weird but supposed to be normal - I was in a&e first and they were supprised i was still upright and not fighting for breathe when they did the x-ray the lovely doctor there stuck a needle and tap into my chest cavity - went onto a ward for the night and it collapsed about 2am on call doc put the too large chest drain in and i spent the rest of what i can remember of the night slumped over a table with a pillow on it with my feet freezing hanging off the side of the bed ... Told them i could feel it pushing on my lung so couldnt sit back - next thing i know i'm off to a specialist thoracic hospital aparently they are the only ones doing a new surgery on sp sufferers with lots of blood missing lol

[Perpetua]

All the super technical stuff has been done, so I'll just comment on your now botty soft skin Martin.

Cigarettes, or rather the chemicals in them, reduce the blood supply/flow/oxygen to your skin . . . they also remove any Vitamin C from your system . . . it's always worth taking a Vitamin C supplement if you do smoke tobacco.

Sp you'll find that many smokers have a bit of a grey pallour & signs of premature aging . . . here's some 'official' spiel on it.





The best thing you can do for a beautiful, glowing complexion is to stop smoking. Smoking both dehydrates and deprives your skin of oxygen, so you will see real benefits - skin will become smoother and more radiant.

Along with sun damage and hard living, nicotine can add years to your appearance. The effects of smoking in terms of ageing are significant. When we inhale just one puff of cigarette smoke, more than a trillion free radicals are produced in our lungs, which then trigger an inflammatory response that circulates throughout the body. And if that wasn't enough to persuade you to kick the habit, in 1985 the term 'smoker's face' was added to the medical dictionary. The characteristics of a smoker's face, which tends to make people look older than they are, was defined as the following:

Lines or wrinkles on the face, particularly radiating at right angles from the upper and lower lips or corners of the eyes, deep lines on the cheeks or numerous shallow lines on the cheeks and lower jaw.

A subtle gauntness of the features, with prominence of the underlying bony contours.

A grey skin palour.

Smoking depletes the collagen in your skin

Cigarette smoke contains more than 4000 toxins, many of which are absorbed directly into the bloodstream and are taken by the blood into the skin's structure. Smoking also causes the blood vessels in the top layers of the skin to constrict, so thickening and reducing the oxygen levels in the blood. This also reduces the levels of collagen in the skin.

[Deleted]

Just my two pennyworth but I always have a decent supply of baby wipes in case of accidents...

They're cheap enough to clean up any spills...

Hope that helps