tc coil help

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You could probably do a clapton with 0.12mm round 0.16mm, maybe 0.16mm round 0.20mm but you'll find it hard to find that size wire in the UK and it's much harder to handle than thick kanthal

The annealed (soft) is limp decoy and as the nickel builds are much thinner than kanthal it's hard to work with, breath on it and it deforms. Tempered (hard) is more like the kanthal we are used to.

The main draw back with nickel is that it's more restrictive than kanthal for peeps who want to experiment with different coil builds because the window of resistance you can build to is much smaller. 0.1 ohms difference can double the wraps and make a coil that's 4mm wide 8mm wide

[letsavit]

I keep it pretty simple, I have .2 & .3 ni200 and just build a spaced single coil for the atty I'm using, anywhere between 5-10 wraps and 2.5-3mm. Atty-area-temp. If my goblin ever turns up I have to reference steam engine again but for now I only shoot for ohms for my mechs.

[decoy]

Apr 19, 2015 22:44:08 GMT @scooby said:

You could probably do a clapton with 0.12mm round 0.16mm, maybe 0.16mm round 0.20mm but you'll find it hard to find that size wire in the UK and it's much harder to handle than thick kanthal

The annealed (soft) is limp decoy and as the nickel builds are much thinner than kanthal it's hard to work with, breath on it and it deforms. Tempered (hard) is more like the kanthal we are used to.

The main draw back with nickel is that it's more restrictive than kanthal for peeps who want to experiment with different coil builds because the window of resistance you can build to is much smaller. 0.1 ohms difference can double the wraps and make a coil that's 4mm wide 8mm wide

i like to build .2 in the dripper with kanthal and that norm 2x claptons .25 wrapped round .5 and 5 wraps at 2mm its just daft
mini fogger i likes to use .16 round .25 for a sweet all day vape norm around .7/.8
the erl is on a .3 spaced coil around 1.3 ohms
however this subtank mini is a bit nuts for a shop bought set up

have to admit ive never just wrapped the wire round the wick and used it  so this tc thing is a new ball game to me

[VapingBad]

Apr 19, 2015 22:52:47 GMT letsavit said:

I keep it pretty simple, I have .2 & .3 ni200 and just build a single spaced single coil for the atty I'm using, anywhere between 5-10 wraps and 2.5-3mm. Atty-area-temp. If my goblin ever turns up I have to reference steam engine again but for now I only shoot for ohms for my mechs.

With TC I only shot to get over 0.1 ohm or you don't get TC at 40 W on a DNA, I think the YiHi goes lower, but don't know what the Invader needs.  It's just to get past that lower limit and then it is what's the thickest Ni200 without stupid num of wraps I can use and the SteamEnging calc (StealthVape have a port of it to) has helped take some of the guesswork out of it.

[letsavit]

Apr 19, 2015 23:01:21 GMT VapingBad said:

Apr 19, 2015 22:52:47 GMT letsavit said:

I keep it pretty simple, I have .2 & .3 ni200 and just build a single spaced single coil for the atty I'm using, anywhere between 5-10 wraps and 2.5-3mm. Atty-area-temp. If my goblin ever turns up I have to reference steam engine again but for now I only shoot for ohms for my mechs.

With TC I only shot to get over 0.1 ohm or you don't get TC at 40 W on a DNA, I think the YiHi goes lower, but don't know what the Invader needs.  It's just to get past that lower limit and then it is what's the thickest Ni200 with stupid num of wraps I can use and the SteamEnging calc (StealthVape have a port of it to) has helped take some of the guesswork out of it.

I had a orchid set up when I first started playing that was just above the 0.1, single I can just make it up as i go along, it will fire....

Been trouble free for a good while now and a good vape, not sure if I'm ready for temp duel yet....! Just remembered I got your favourite atty on the way too, I have a play with temp two coils again soon.

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Apr 19, 2015 22:58:16 GMT decoy said:

Apr 19, 2015 22:44:08 GMT @scooby said:

You could probably do a clapton with 0.12mm round 0.16mm, maybe 0.16mm round 0.20mm but you'll find it hard to find that size wire in the UK and it's much harder to handle than thick kanthal

The annealed (soft) is limp decoy and as the nickel builds are much thinner than kanthal it's hard to work with, breath on it and it deforms. Tempered (hard) is more like the kanthal we are used to.

The main draw back with nickel is that it's more restrictive than kanthal for peeps who want to experiment with different coil builds because the window of resistance you can build to is much smaller. 0.1 ohms difference can double the wraps and make a coil that's 4mm wide 8mm wide

i like to build .2 in the dripper with kanthal and that norm 2x claptons .25 wrapped round .5 and 5 wraps at 2mm its just daft
mini fogger i likes to use .16 round .25 for a sweet all day vape norm around .7/.8
the erl is on a .3 spaced coil around 1.3 ohms
however this subtank mini is a bit nuts for a shop bought set up

have to admit ive never just wrapped the wire round the wick and used it  so this tc thing is a new ball game to me

0.25mm nickel on it's own would be well over 30 wraps for 0.7ohms

Never done it yourself decoy but what about someone else doing the wrapping

[VapingBad]

Just shot for above the min R for the device, wattage control will sort the rest out.

[decoy]

Apr 19, 2015 23:14:58 GMT VapingBad said:

Just shot for above the min R for the device, wattage control will sort the rest out.

Tbh thats what ill end up doing at 1st But being used to kanthal its blodly low(.2 is as low as i have vaped )
Tuesday should be a fun day 

[decoy]

Apr 19, 2015 23:08:38 GMT @scooby said:

Apr 19, 2015 22:58:16 GMT decoy said:

i like to build .2 in the dripper with kanthal and that norm 2x claptons .25 wrapped round .5 and 5 wraps at 2mm its just daft
mini fogger i likes to use .16 round .25 for a sweet all day vape norm around .7/.8
the erl is on a .3 spaced coil around 1.3 ohms
however this subtank mini is a bit nuts for a shop bought set up

have to admit ive never just wrapped the wire round the wick and used it  so this tc thing is a new ball game to me

0.25mm nickel on it's own would be well over 30 wraps for 0.7ohms

Never done it yourself decoy but what about someone else doing the wrapping

.7 clapton in mini fogger and its lush




because i wanted to try duel coil in the mini fogger
i can wrap coils just never even seen this ni200 stuffs yet alone used it or know what you can and cant so with it hence the daft questions Tease-smiley

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Apr 20, 2015 4:47:27 GMT decoy said:

Apr 19, 2015 23:08:38 GMT @scooby said:

0.25mm nickel on it's own would be well over 30 wraps for 0.7ohms

Never done it yourself decoy but what about someone else doing the wrapping

.7 clapton in mini fogger and its lush




because i wanted to try duel coil in the mini fogger
i can wrap coils just never even seen this ni200 stuffs yet alone used it or know what you can and cant so with it hence the daft questions Tease-smiley

Not daft decoy just pointing out n200 is very different.

IIRC this is 0.12mm wrapped round 0.16mm. Bear in mind this pic is just about 1:1 so almost lifesize but 0.12mm is about the thickness of a human hair. Had problems with it making good contact at the posts. Broke when tightening down and was a general pita to make and set up so only did it once.




Edit: Oh and I meant having someone else wrap wire round your wick and using it, no reference to your coiling skills

[letsavit]

Amateurs;

One I just finished...




A number of wraps round a screwdriver. Accidentally on purpose larger space in the centre for better vapor velocity,
Ohms unknown until I stick it on a mod.

[decoy]

i know @scooby i was just playing wiff yer
the TRD came today just waiting for the ni200 i ordered last night to turn up tomoz and we will see if this thing works

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Apr 20, 2015 11:53:13 GMT letsavit said:

Amateurs;

One I just finished...




A number of wraps round a screwdriver. Accidentally on propose larger space in the centre for better vapor velocity,
Ohms unknown until I stick it on a mod.

You forgot to say letsavit that you found the wire on the shed floor