reducing nic strength

[ragjoy]

firstly i am considering buying a kanger subtank mini, i currently use boge cartos in a tank so for me its a big change.
i have around 300ml of juice made up at 24mg and it is full pg with pg nic.
can anyone tell me the ratio of of my juice to VG i would have too use to get it down too 6mg.
ive not yet read enough too know for certain if 6mg will be what i will use as i dont really want the clouds of vapour ive seen these produce, so im guessing that if i was vaping at 15 watts maybe the mix i would use maybe a slightly higher mg but i would want too start cutting the mg down now, after 6 years vaping.
oh, and would this have too re steep, i use golden rollie with a hint of caramel, so i would also need to re flavour it.
none of this might work for me as 3 to 4 years back i was getting banging headaches from some vg juices so ive been on pg only for some time now.
thanks.

[Postmodern Smoking]

ragjoy , If you want to try mixing down, 10ml of 24mg/ml nic eliquid, 100/0 PG/VG + 30ml of VG (ideally flavoured) = 40ml @ 6mg/ml eliquid 25/75 PG/VG
(or, 300ml of 24mg/ml + 900ml VG = 1200ml @ 6mg/ml)

If you don't use extra flavour in your 'no nic VG', you will be diluting the e-liquid flavour too much.
If the PG/VG ratio is too VG high for you, you could always dilute down with plain PG or a PG/VG mix?

[ragjoy]

thank you, makes sense now i see it wrote down, 25% to 75%.
is it ok too use pg in sub methods as id sort of heard, read it needed to be a very high content of vg.
so by re flavouring it would need most of the normal steep period, i guess.
thanks again.

[Richard46]

Never mind the clouds dropping from 24 to 6 is a very big jump; take it easy. I just tried to drop from 15mg/ml to about 6 and it was too much. Have had to reinforce the 6ml juice back up to about 9.

[Postmodern Smoking]

I don't sub-ohm, but a lot of sub ohmers are looking for clouds and not too much throat hit that PG can create, but if vaping at lowish watts you might be okay (especially as you're used to very high PG mixes).
I suggest that you experiment, to find out what suits you and doesn't give you headaches.

Some steeping would be preferable if remixing, depending on your patience and the flavour type.

(By the way if you continue to dabble with Boge carto's on a part time basis, PM or email me, I'm sure I can beat whatever you have been paying!)


[Edit to Add] - If you use Ejuice Me Up calculator, there's a nic combine function in the tools menu, that is an easy way to work out dilutions by trial and error. Or I don't mind carrying out the calculations!

[ragjoy]

thanks richard, the reason i was doing this is that i popped into a vape shop in norwich and tried the kanger subtank.
we discussed my setup which he had never heard of but he explained that 6mg is 24mg ish when using this method, im not suggesting he is right, it was just how he explained it.

[wildpolecat]

i started my reduction by having 0mg in a couple of tanks and 3mg in another gradually reduced the amount i used the 3mg and increased the amount i used 0mg i still use the odd 3mg juice its still low its not nic i find i crave its hand to mouth habbit good luck hope it works out for you

[ragjoy]

Jan 1, 2016 22:09:37 GMT Postmodern Smoking said:

I don't sub-ohm, but a lot of sub ohmers are looking for clouds and not too much throat hit that PG can create, but if vaping at lowish watts you might be okay (especially as you're used to very high PG mixes).
I suggest that you experiment, to find out what suits you and doesn't give you headaches.

Some steeping would be preferable if remixing, depending on your patience and the flavour type.

(By the way if you continue to dabble with Boge carto's on a part time basis, PM or email me, I'm sure I can beat whatever you have been paying!)


[Edit to Add] - If you use Ejuice Me Up calculator, there's a nic combine function in the tools menu, that is an easy way to work out dilutions by trial and error. Or I don't mind carrying out the calculations!

thank you again,
much of my reason for going this route is that wherever ive bought boges from in the past 18 mths they have been problematic.
ive tried blanks, holed and slots, i have too punch up to 4 holes into blanks, add extra holes too slots and holed ones and they badly wick, can taste bad and have a 2 to 3 day limit.
im currently ploughing through some from health cabin and some uk sellers.

[Richard46]

Jan 1, 2016 22:12:06 GMT ragjoy said:

thanks richard, the reason i was doing this is that i popped into a vape shop in norwich and tried the kanger subtank.
we discussed my setup which he had never heard of but he explained that 6mg is 24mg ish when using this method, im not suggesting he is right, it was just how he explained it.

It is certainly not a precise art but I sub ohm down to about 0.1 with TC (as well as vape around 1.1 ohms with kanthal) and even then I think the jump from 24 to sub ohm at 6 is a tad optimistic. But we are all different and so is the kit we use. As a general rule I think making smaller incremental changes is a good policy to avoid ending up with large amounts of juice that aint right.
Good luck

[ragjoy]

Jan 1, 2016 22:56:27 GMT Richard46 said:

Jan 1, 2016 22:12:06 GMT ragjoy said:

thanks richard, the reason i was doing this is that i popped into a vape shop in norwich and tried the kanger subtank.
we discussed my setup which he had never heard of but he explained that 6mg is 24mg ish when using this method, im not suggesting he is right, it was just how he explained it.

It is certainly not a precise art but I sub ohm down to about 0.1 with TC (as well as vape around 1.1 ohms with kanthal) and even then I think the jump from 24 to sub ohm at 6 is a tad optimistic. But we are all different and so is the kit we use. As a general rule I think making smaller incremental changes is a good policy to avoid ending up with large amounts of juice that aint right.
Good luck

thanks richard,
makes sense, i would likely do some small amounts but may have too buy ready made in between.
i really struggle with ready mades as im not a flavour lover and like the vg headaches many flavours do this too and ive never been able to pin it down exactly.
i can probably suffer just watering down and not steeping as the non flavour wont really bother me.

[Richard46]

Jan 1, 2016 23:08:58 GMT ragjoy said:

Jan 1, 2016 22:56:27 GMT Richard46 said:

It is certainly not a precise art but I sub ohm down to about 0.1 with TC (as well as vape around 1.1 ohms with kanthal) and even then I think the jump from 24 to sub ohm at 6 is a tad optimistic. But we are all different and so is the kit we use. As a general rule I think making smaller incremental changes is a good policy to avoid ending up with large amounts of juice that aint right.
Good luck

thanks richard,
makes sense, i would likely do some small amounts but may have too buy ready made in between.
i really struggle with ready mades as im not a flavour lover and like the vg headaches many flavours do this too and ive never been able to pin it down exactly.
i can probably suffer just watering down and not steeping as the non flavour wont really bother me.

Then you are like me; flavour eludes me to a great extent. In fact when I make something with a flavour I can detect I don't use it again. So far anyway.