The coil of the future.or is it?

[Bobsbeer]

To me they would be better selling the chip/coil/element separately rather than trying to sell the whole lot in one unit. If the chip is as good as they say it is then others will no doubt copy it, or redesign it regardless of any patents out there. By putting the coil out for others to use will probably generate more overall sales and lessen the chance of copies coming out.

[jtc]

It is a very interesting one and I'm looking forward to seeing how this pans out

[Deleted]

if it dont work well least we can use it to boil a cuppa tea when out and about in the car like the old days

[sydsut]

Jan 8, 2016 6:59:01 GMT @lebel22 said:

Jan 8, 2016 1:43:58 GMT yahoo2u2 said:

I think the thing here is that it has taken 2 years to develop. Now vaping has moved on and of course we have regulations being put in place that was not even considered then.

So the questions will be:-
Will it work?
Will it be a good enough device to actually improve vaping?

Now, the money grabbing politicians will ensure that innovation will probably slow to a crawl if any is made at all. They hope that the current numbers of vapers will start to decline and tax on ciggies will either stabilise and the decline stopped or improve as vapers cannot get the kit they crave.

A lot of inovation already comes from China. They will always inovate if it will make them money, regardless of TPD imo.

The TPD and the FDA in the States if they get they're way, will close off a lot of European and American markets to the Chinese and if they lose a lot of income from sales this may well stop them innovating. I believe that the USA and Europe are far and away their biggest markets.

[dagl]

Jan 7, 2016 23:11:46 GMT letsavit said:

Jan 7, 2016 23:00:06 GMT sydsut said:

A very good point letsavit   as the 510 is probably holding back further real advances at the moment, but with something like a 400 million or so Mods and attys out there with this connector which manufacturer will make the first move. And the TPD and the FDA in the States will make it risky.

exactly that mate, with such an uncertain market whos going invest that much into what really is such a small market...... As VE Jason pointed out us temp control users are minority playing with the most advance equipment which compared to what's around us is still stuck in the stones ages..!

Edit... But I'm happy, if Apple invented something I think I would still enjoy a good old bit of wire and cotton on a dripper. Treated myself to a bean to cup coffee machine for Christmas, used it once and sent it back to Amazon, got my Italian Bialetti out, stuck it on the gas stove and remembered what real coffee tasted like......think that was invented in the 1930s...!

What one did you (albeit briefly) go for? I've bean (see what I did there?) looking (Lusting) at one of Heston Bloomin'hell they're expensive!

[nanotm]

Jan 8, 2016 23:08:22 GMT dagl said:

Jan 7, 2016 23:11:46 GMT letsavit said:

exactly that mate, with such an uncertain market whos going invest that much into what really is such a small market...... As VE Jason pointed out us temp control users are minority playing with the most advance equipment which compared to what's around us is still stuck in the stones ages..!

Edit... But I'm happy, if Apple invented something I think I would still enjoy a good old bit of wire and cotton on a dripper. Treated myself to a bean to cup coffee machine for Christmas, used it once and sent it back to Amazon, got my Italian Bialetti out, stuck it on the gas stove and remembered what real coffee tasted like......think that was invented in the 1930s...!

What one did you (albeit briefly) go for? I've bean (see what I did there?) looking (Lusting) at one of Heston Bloomin'hell they're expensive!

temp control will be a major thing quite soon, the regulations will demand it as a minimum standard because it provides a safety feature that prevents you from generating the "dangerous gases" no doubt the new stuff will be regulated down to below 450f ....

as to the coffee machine, I've had a Cuisinart grinder >filter>hot pot machine for about 14 years, I remember struggeling to find coffee that tasted good from it originally because it tended to overheat the grounds and make a rather bitter tasting brew with anything aribica based, having found the right "type" it makes fantastic brews (aribica apparently needs a slightly lower temp water) although to be fair I us it about 10 times a year now (when I worked and got up at the same time of day I used it all the time because it has a clock based auto run feature) but after chatting with some douche fag in the local coffee bean store I found out its rare for any machine to work well with beans of all sorts, although there is one that costs about £20k that has a built in qr scanner that can select the presets for each type of bean so long as its hoked up to the internet for database access (or the standalone one with the updateable database costs a mere £25k.....) however for the simplicity of fill it up push the buttons and go to bed and wake up with a fresh pot of wakeup sludge I cant fault it

[letsavit]

dagl

This one Boxing Day flash sale so £240, got some Lavazza beans I know well, despite the good reviews it wasn't that great , even with the discount.... Had an easy espresso pod thing before which broke, been using "posh" instant for a while but after sending the bean to cup machine back I got the old skool Bialetti out

And soo glad I did... Proper coffee



Makes two very nice strong espressos, let it simmer slowly, mmmmm just bought the Bialetti frother, cheating at the moment a with a whisk and microwave.....


Kinda the point so not total derail guys, does vaping have to advance, my coffee making hasn't............?