PG ,VG, all the same?

[digicig]

ShenZhen is a 'Special Economic Zone' thing, so set up for dealing with the west more than China! I can order from taobao.com - but go through the whole trying to find something acceptable, process again - with vendors i've never heard of, and flavours i might not like. I have sourced nic - 1L of 36mg for around $40 delivered - and he does flavours - but only 100ml at a time.

I should be visiting Joyetech this week - hopefully in the company of one of the Joyetech USA bigwigs, so might try and get some juice off them whilst i'm there - worth a try anyway