Flat Earth

[jtc]

Aha but FE people do say the sun takes different paths circling above us

[jtc]

Interesting me thinks


Watch "The Earth Is Flat - Just Don't Tell Anyone - 4 Hour Documentary" on YouTube

[charliehorse]

Mar 2, 2016 8:17:19 GMT jtc said:

Interesting me thinks

Its not a CGI blue screen it's is simply a grid that they use to perform demonstrations and the like in front of as can be seen here ........

 

[jtc]

Watch "The Floppy Door - The Final Nail In NASA's Coffin" on YouTube

[jtc]

Watch "The Nile River Flows UPHILL? - Flat Earth" on YouTube

[jtc]

Watch "WTF Clouds behind our Sun and Moon ?" on YouTube

[Get Off My Cloud]

[jtc]

Yes I know it's hard to believe our governments have conned us for the last 500 years
NOT
Well although I'm not totally convinced yet the evidence stacks up.
So people you can mock all you like but there are some real points in this next video.
I am posting these just in case there are others lurking that might actually be interested in possibly the biggest lie we've ever been fed

[nanotm]

jtc

that latest vid is serious conspiraloon stuff.....

[jtc]

May 5, 2016 10:40:16 GMT nanotm said:

jtc

that latest vid is serious conspiraloon stuff.....

Welcome to your opinion

[nanotm]

May 5, 2016 11:04:17 GMT jtc said:

May 5, 2016 10:40:16 GMT nanotm said:

jtc

that latest vid is serious conspiraloon stuff.....

Welcome to your opinion

i'm not saying your theory about the earth being flat is necessarily wrong, but the guy there in that video talks out his ass, having watched the videos made from space his claims about nasa not broadcasting things is totally wrong (the first moon mission relayed live footage across the airwaves of both the approach to the moon and return journey from the cockpit mounted camera...

his arguments about the ISS being somewhere in a bunker are barking mad (you can see it as it moves overhead with a pair of bino's or a telescope) his simplistic thoughts on how a gyroscope works failed to take account of altitude or the speed of travel or indeed the effects of gravity (a gyroscope that's fully spun up try's to move in the opposite direction to the force applied, so a person carrying one that try's to lift it and turn left will smash to the ground on the right, and that hurts a lot I've done it but only once)

If he had stuck to a single train of thought and worked through a hypothesis he might not appear to have just escaped a mental institution but unfortunately he comes across as somehone off their meds and in a manic phase of paranoia

all of which combined stands only to totally derail any "proof" he might believe exists because far from presenting the arguments in a logical well founded way he skips from misunderstanding to misunderstanding to outright moonhowling and that's the same with the majority of all conspiraloons (hence the name) if you look closely you can see conspiracies everywhere but only a few of them are really what they appear to be some are just imagined, unfortunately this delusional chap falls into the latter category on pretty much every point he makes

[nanotm]

oh for recent footage taken from space this article on msn seems to show a rather less than flat earth www.msn.com/en-gb/money/technology/nasa-launched-a-gopro-into-space-and-the-footage-will-leave-you-absolutely-speechless/ar-BBsEHYS?ocid=spartandhp

I still don't say that flat earthers are wrong though since I haven't personally been to space and seen what the earth looks like from that vantage I cant be totally definitive, but I do disagree with the notion, and here's a simple exercise that will show why,

take a thimble put it on a flat table top and stick your head on one side looking towards it close the upper eye, the thimble stays the same size regardless of how close you get to it, take the same thimble place it on a football (or other round opaque object of similar size) with something like blue tak to hold it in place, put that on the side of your head and rotate the ball so the thimble comes into view, it is invisible when below the horizon and then grows in size gradually until it is completely visible as your rotate the ball, notice the similarities when traveling towards a hill on the open road, things grow from invisible (below the horizon) to huge..... on a flat surface you don't get a horizon you get a blury dark ness at the edge of your field of view, that's why parabolics are used for sights or telescopes and why you mount telescopes on hill sides instead of on low ground ......

[jtc]

The trouble is with a go pro camera they have fish eye lenses which every time creates a curve.
Nasa well I don't believe anything from them.
If you search for the Tokyo tree earth curve you will see a curve from a fish eye camera, but there are hundreds of pics showing a flat horizon from people with a normal cam.
I'm not saying everything FE people say is correct but they definitely have a case.
I watch a lot of videos on it and I stay on the fence, but dam they have so much that points towards flat

[Get Off My Cloud]

May 5, 2016 12:07:55 GMT nanotm said:

oh for recent footage taken from space this article on msn seems to show a rather less than flat earth www.msn.com/en-gb/money/technology/nasa-launched-a-gopro-into-space-and-the-footage-will-leave-you-absolutely-speechless/ar-BBsEHYS?ocid=spartandhp

I still don't say that flat earthers are wrong though since I haven't personally been to space and seen what the earth looks like from that vantage I cant be totally definitive, but I do disagree with the notion, and here's a simple exercise that will show why,

take a thimble put it on a flat table top and stick your head on one side looking towards it close the upper eye, the thimble stays the same size regardless of how close you get to it, take the same thimble place it on a football (or other round opaque object of similar size) with something like blue tak to hold it in place, put that on the side of your head and rotate the ball so the thimble comes into view, it is invisible when below the horizon and then grows in size gradually until it is completely visible as your rotate the ball, notice the similarities when traveling towards a hill on the open road, things grow from invisible (below the horizon) to huge..... on a flat surface you don't get a horizon you get a blury dark ness at the edge of your field of view, that's why parabolics are used for sights or telescopes and why you mount telescopes on hill sides instead of on low ground ......

It's a rather bizarre criteria you have for saying something is definitively true or not.
I've never been to Mt Everest or Australia i have no qualms however in definitely saying both exist and i suspect neither do you so why place this criteria of not being able to be definitive about the Earth being spherical on yourself because you haven't seen it directly?

[jtc]

Who said definitive?