Flat Earth

[jtc]

Just to reiterate I'm still on the fence about the real truth of this matter.
But it is quite astonishing how so many people can't actually comprehend the possibility that they've been brainwashed all their lives with bs.
It really is a shame that people accept things so easily

[charliehorse]

[jtc]

May 6, 2016 3:07:26 GMT charliehorse said:

Oh dear they have done air travel over the north pole but not South
This video was quite a poor attempt imo

[jtc]

The coriolis effect and tides
Could this explain it

[nanotm]

lets put it this way,

if the earth was really flat then all those hundreds of millions of people in the last 500 years would of needed to be in on the conspiracy to lie to the world

what your saying is that all the leaders of the many religious sects would all have to be telling the exact same lie not just to outsiders but also to members of their own religion, and whilst certain groups are notable in religious texts permitting them to lie to non believers its the greatest sin to lie to your own....... never mind having all those disparate peoples actually agree on telling the exact same lie.....

if you put the dala lama the grand rabi the ayatollah and the pope all in the same room you'd be lucky for one of htem to walk out alive never mind forge an agreement about all telling the same lies to the public (their public)

oh and I should probably take this opportunity to point out theres evidence that the first working heliocentric solar model was created in ancient Greece (who it is suggested were an alien race seeking refuge on our planet from the alpha centuri system) members of which are known throught all cultures across the world for finding discovering or creating creating certain knowledge (like archamedies, Pythagoras, plato, scorates etc) whcich would suggest far from the globular earth shape being a conspiracy of 500 years that the flat earth movement of belief was the conspiracy of nearly a thousand years known only to the few in power that created it in mid 6th centuary at the head of the church and that duing the dark ages and middle ages that myth was perpetuated by the church and such myths were only cast down in the 1500's after England separated from the RC church and true knowledge once again started to flow without interdictions of heresy at every turn by the church, this change in subornment caused truth and only the most fractured minds fail to grasp the meaning of such knowledge and how it lead to the industrial revolution and the modern age, perhaps "flat earthers" are realy idiots who belive the world was better off when it was sparsly populated and living in wattle and daube huts with millions dying every year from cold or starvation in every nation.... certainly a particular religious group seems ot be of the opinion that we need less people and things are much better if you cling to the dark ages way of things.....

[catface26]

May 5, 2016 12:58:29 GMT jtc said:

The trouble is with a go pro camera they have fish eye lenses which every time creates a curve.
Nasa well I don't believe anything from them.
If you search for the Tokyo tree earth curve you will see a curve from a fish eye camera, but there are hundreds of pics showing a flat horizon from people with a normal cam.
I'm not saying everything FE people say is correct but they definitely have a case.
I watch a lot of videos on it and I stay on the fence, but dam they have so much that points twards flat

You do realise you have to be at a certain height to see curvature of a ball as big as the Earth? If you have a big enough circle and look at one small section of it (as in our own field of view) it will look like a straight line. You have to be a certain distance away to see the curve. 

Reports and photographs claiming that visual observers can detect the curvature of the Earth from high mountains or high-flying commercial aircraft are investigated. Visual daytime observations show that the minimum altitude at which curvature of the horizon can be detected is at or slightly below 35,000 ft, providing that the field of view is wide (60°) and nearly cloud free. The high-elevation horizon is almost as sharp as the sea-level horizon, but its contrast is less than 10% that of the sea-level horizon. Photographs purporting to show the curvature of the Earth are always suspect because virtually all camera lenses project an image that suffers from barrel distortion. To accurately assess curvature from a photograph, the horizon must be placed precisely in the center of the image, i.e., on the optical axis.

[VapingBad]

May 6, 2016 2:25:31 GMT jtc said:

May 5, 2016 22:23:06 GMT VapingBad said:

Would you like to buy some magic beans Jack?



They come from a very magical mystical unbelievable place: the only flat planet in a universe where all the others of around 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets are spherical.

Yes well if you accept everything you're told then maybe that's why you think other people might believe in the beans sir.
Mocking is the easy way out I suppose and I understand the ignorance and arrogance but it really doesn't prove anything

Well you accused everybody of being brainwashed.  People have been able to see the round planets Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn with the naked eye for thousands of years.   Maybe you don't see it but the quality of evidence for FE is rubbish vs thousands of years of peer reviewed science, scientists are as completive as pro sports people and like disproving each other so these laws and theories would not stand if they could be disproved.

[catface26]

I've read this entire thread now and it's really annoyed me.

The question I've been asking myself throughout is what benefit anyone would have in lying about the shape of the Earth? The only answer has been "money and power".

How is lying about the shape empowering? If NASA are profiting out of space exploration now and that is the main reason for the cover up, then why wouldn't they just be honest? People would still want answers to what is in space regardless as to what shape our planet was. We are naturally curious creatures and want answers. It really isn't a case of being "open-minded" with this I'm afraid. It's complete and utter shite.

The Sun is round, the Moon is round, all the other planets and moons are round. But the Earth is flat. The Earth doesn't follow the rules of physics, the Sun is suddenly dancing around on a flat plate doing whatever the hell it wants. There's a wall of ice stopping us from falling off the edge and we just turn around in a different direction when we get near the edge. All of our instruments are lying. **** mathematics it's all a big hoax. **** it. Maybe 2+2=5.

It's on par with Creationism for me. Put all the evidence we have for evolution in one pile and compare it to the evidence for Creationism. A book full of fairy tales.
I fully agree that we live in a corrupt world but the MASSIVE difference with science is you can do it for yourself! Buy a chemistry set and do some experiments. The same ones that have been done for thousands of years that have the same result EVERY time. That's what science is. It's repeatable. It works. Lies in science don't really exist because any bogus claim is quickly debunked when a paper is peer reviewed.

[Deleted]

I just say BURN them BURN them all non believers they are witch's, or dunk them whatever is easiest

[jtc]

Yes everything you said is written and I see the point but,
Only the select few would know in a thing as big as this.
And them select few I would say are evil and would want a one world order.
And by swaying people away from the Bible and creating wars could be part of that.
If that have brainwashed the masses then they will certainly be getting deeper into their closest pawns to keep this probable fraud going.
Ive no doubt a sailer went around in a circle and thought the world was a globe 500 years ago and Newton might have really believed he'd found the magic gravity.
But us it all true
Hmmm I do wonder.

This kind of made me giggle -

'creating certain knowledge (like archamedies, Pythagoras, plato, scorates etc) '

Creating being a possible creation of untrue or erm well because I think this it must be.
Hmmm yet although I'm not sure I bet every one of them above was tied with sun worshipping masons and sold their souls to the devil.

Is the bible not real?
Well I hear there was no mention of aliens and lots of other galaxies.
Just a flat plain created in the waters and a impassable firmament.

Like I say this is just an unbiased maybe hypothesis I'm spouting but hey there's still no proof otherwise.
But plenty flat proof according to globe calculations

[catface26]

May 6, 2016 9:28:53 GMT jtc said:

Yes everything you said is written and I see the point but,
Only the select few would know in a thing as big as this.
And them select few I would say are evil and would want a one world order.
And by swaying people away from the Bible and creating wars could be part of that.
If that have brainwashed the masses then they will certainly be getting deeper into their closest pawns to keep this probable fraud going.
Ive no doubt a sailer went around in a circle and thought the world was a globe 500 years ago and Newton might have really believed he'd found the magic gravity.
But us it all true
Hmmm I do wonder.

This kind of made me giggle -

'creating certain knowledge (like archamedies, Pythagoras, plato, scorates etc) '

Creating being a possible creation of untrue or erm well because I think this it must be.
Hmmm yet although I'm not sure I bet every one of them above was tied with sun worshipping masons and sold their souls to the devil.

Is the bible not real?
Well I hear there was no mention of aliens and lots of other galaxies.
Just a flat plain created in the waters and a impassable firmament.

Like I say this is just an unbiased maybe hypothesis I'm spouting but hey there's still no proof otherwise.
But plenty flat proof according to globe calculations

Not being offensive but none of what you just wrote made any sense. Sounds like the true ramblings of a flat Earth conspiracy mentalist. 

[Get Off My Cloud]

May 6, 2016 2:18:20 GMT jtc said:

May 5, 2016 22:26:36 GMT Get Off My Cloud said:

What reason exactly would the government have to lie about the shape of the planet?
And not just one government but every government on the planet and not just every government on the planet now but every government on the planet going back decades and centuries?
And not just governments but mariners, pilots, astronauts, astronomers, physicists, geologists also going back decades and centuries.

We're literally talking about tens of millions of people all lying for what purpose?

Not tens of millions just the selected top people know apparently like the highest order masons.
It's believed they lie because they are making trillions from nasa and it gives them mind control of the masses.
They do not want us to know the truth and are steering us away from our real creator God.
The globe goes against what the bible says and so does being able to pass through the firmament.
Over the years less and less people have religious faith because of their sun worshiping lies and we believe we are inconsequential nothingness in a galaxy flying around at great speeds.
It's all about control, money and evil against the the real truth apparently.

And yes millions of us know that the fda/tpd is BS sydsut but still they are just treating people like fools and playing stupid games for control and gain.

All in your face bs but hey hoe most except their evil and carry on regardless.

Anyway that's kind of what is suspected why they lie about a globe but nobody really knows,only the ones that are lying.
The earth was believed flat a hell of a lot longer than the globe theory but now because they tell us it is everyone accepts it with actually no real evidence.
I wish I had all the answers about this but all I can do is sit on the fence and watch for evidence.

It's very surprising that apart from nasa cgi there isn't any globe evidence but there is plenty of flat plain evidence if you actually looked at it

You do know people have known the Earth is spherical since before Christianity right?
The ancient Greeks knew it they were writing about the earth being a sphere as far back as 384BC.

In 240BC Eratosthenes even devised a method of measuring the world's circumference with nothing more than a stick and mathematics.
Certainly an experiment you could repeat yourself.
www.windows2universe.org/citizen_science/myw/w2u_eratosthenes_calc_earth_size.html

Your it's a plot by the Freemasons to milk money from NASA seems a bit absurd seeing as how people have known the Earth is a sphere since long before either existed.
That and coupled with the fact these Masons are apparently in the highest positions in government and society it seems like a strange choice of lie just to cyphon off funds they already control anyway if they exist.

NASA's annual budget is $18.4 billion i'm not sure how many people that supposedly needs to be shared between because you were a little vague about how many people actually know about the lie but lets say for example it's 1,000 people worldwide that's a paltry $18.4 million each.
Why would they choose to lie about something with such a small budget and it is a small budget compared to say the $52.6 billion the US alone spends on intelligence agencies every year.

[jtc]

Well if it is all a big lye then all the above probably would be too.
Right then I vote we take a break until next time and get back to the next big shafting they're doing to us about vaping on our flat earth / globe

[Get Off My Cloud]

May 6, 2016 10:28:10 GMT jtc said:

Well if it is all a big lye then all the above probably would be too.
Right then I vote we take a break until next time and get back to the next big shafting they're doing to us about vaping on our flat earth / globe

Like i said you could repeat Eratosthenes experiment yourself and measure the circumference of the world with a stick and a calculator.
Sure it wouldn't be anywhere near as entertaining as watching conspiracy videos on youtube but it would allow you to demonstrate for yourself that the world is a sphere.

And hey if the story about Eratosthenes is a lie you'll be able to prove that too wouldn't you by showing his experiment does not work.

[jtc]

May 6, 2016 10:38:18 GMT Get Off My Cloud said:

May 6, 2016 10:28:10 GMT jtc said:

Well if it is all a big lye then all the above probably would be too.
Right then I vote we take a break until next time and get back to the next big shafting they're doing to us about vaping on our flat earth / globe

Like i said you could repeat Eratosthenes experiment yourself and measure the circumference of the world with a stick and a calculator.
Sure it wouldn't be anywhere near as entertaining as watching conspiracy videos on youtube but it would allow you to demonstrate for yourself that the world is a sphere.

And hey if the story about Eratosthenes is a lie you'll be able to prove that too wouldn't you by showing his experiment does not work.

It's already been debunked