Nextiny and Mesh problems

[blujim]

I hope this is in the right section.
I posted this on a previous site and thought I'd try my luck here too.

I was intrigued by the whole genesis and mesh set up so ordered myself a nextiny clone of FT. Had a go a building, I was aiming at 1 ohm but it came in at 0.2. Started pulsing etc then got a burning smell. Realised it was too low ohmage so tried to take it apart only to find that the brass nut had become welded to the top and when gently trying to remove it with pliers it snapped off. So its now unuseable. What did I do wrong? Ideas for right mesh and wire sizes? I have kanthal. Really wanted this to work, now just have burnt fingers and a nice scar matching the brass nut. Any tips appreciated. I did watch some videos and thought give it a try. Obviously ended badly.

Does anyone have any idea how I can avoid over heating it so much that it fused the nut? Or any help really. Ordered another nextiny so a wait is expected. Thanks.

[decoy]

tbh I don't have a nextiny but have had genny type attys
the main thing is to burn de fook outa the mesh before you fit it as you have to build up a layer of carbon to act as an insulator
I tend to roll it to size and cover it in juice before hitting it with blowtorch to make it glow red hot
I tend to do that 3 or 4 times before fitting the mesh
just try to get the mesh black before use or it tends to short

[phtumshk]

I always use .3 wire and about 4 wraps around your average sized mesh wick and comes out at around 1 ohm.

[domejunky]

I had the same issues with a Nextgen. The SXK Nextiny is a better clone, the centre post is removable.

I was attracted to the Nextiny, Nextgen and In'ax because of the centre post. Thought it would help with winding coils. I'm not actually convinced it helps. It means your mesh has to be completely oxidised internally and externally to prevent shirts. The exposed wick on the Nextiny is very small. I was trying to get a build with high enough resistance for a Le Petit Gros, at least an Ohm. I didn't achieve it and traded it.

I've since got an SXK Le Zephyr. Haven't put it down since it arrived. Thought I was going to have to use reducers or a ton of mesh to fill the 3.75mm wick hole. Turns out that twice the height of #300 worked fine. Pre rolled the coil, unfurled the well oxidised mesh into it. 7/8 wraps if 28/29g getting 1.2-1.4 ohms and a smooth, dense flavourful vape. Maybe the best vape i've experienced. Think the massive surface area helps. The larger of the three hole setting is perfect for that cusp between MTL and Restricted Lung. Would consider an original if I had the cash...

[phtumshk]

Apr 28, 2016 23:51:21 GMT domejunky said:

I had the same issues with a Nextgen. The SXK Nextiny is a better clone, the centre post is removable.

I was attracted to the Nextiny, Nextgen and In'ax because of the centre post. Thought it would help with winding coils. I'm not actually convinced it helps. It means your mesh has to be completely oxidised internally and externally to prevent shirts. The exposed wick on the Nextiny is very small. I was trying to get a build with high enough resistance for a Le Petit Gros, at least an Ohm. I didn't achieve it and traded it.

I've since got an SXK Le Zephyr. Haven't put it down since it arrived. Thought I was going to have to use reducers or a ton of mesh to fill the 3.75mm wick hole. Turns out that twice the height of #300 worked fine. Pre rolled the coil, unfurled the well oxidised mesh into it. 7/8 wraps if 28/29g getting 1.2-1.4 ohms and a smooth, dense flavourful vape. Maybe the best vape i've experienced. Think the massive surface area helps. The larger of the three hole setting is perfect for that cusp between MTL and Restricted Lung. Would consider an original if I had the cash...

Hadnt heard of that 1, just checked it out on the google.
Seems a similar affair (ie a piece of piss) to coil and wick like the nahualon.
Will be adding that 1 to the list for future purchase.

[domejunky]

Apr 29, 2016 0:21:45 GMT phtumshk said:

Apr 28, 2016 23:51:21 GMT domejunky said:

I had the same issues with a Nextgen. The SXK Nextiny is a better clone, the centre post is removable.

I was attracted to the Nextiny, Nextgen and In'ax because of the centre post. Thought it would help with winding coils. I'm not actually convinced it helps. It means your mesh has to be completely oxidised internally and externally to prevent shirts. The exposed wick on the Nextiny is very small. I was trying to get a build with high enough resistance for a Le Petit Gros, at least an Ohm. I didn't achieve it and traded it.

I've since got an SXK Le Zephyr. Haven't put it down since it arrived. Thought I was going to have to use reducers or a ton of mesh to fill the 3.75mm wick hole. Turns out that twice the height of #300 worked fine. Pre rolled the coil, unfurled the well oxidised mesh into it. 7/8 wraps if 28/29g getting 1.2-1.4 ohms and a smooth, dense flavourful vape. Maybe the best vape i've experienced. Think the massive surface area helps. The larger of the three hole setting is perfect for that cusp between MTL and Restricted Lung. Would consider an original if I had the cash...

Hadnt heard of that 1, just checked it out on the google.
Seems a similar affair (ie a piece of piss) to coil and wick like the nahualon.
Will be adding that 1 to the list for future purchase.

£11 odd from Fasttech. Took 10 days to get to me with China post. Best £11 I ever spent.

[domejunky]

Apr 29, 2016 0:21:45 GMT phtumshk said:

Apr 28, 2016 23:51:21 GMT domejunky said:

I had the same issues with a Nextgen. The SXK Nextiny is a better clone, the centre post is removable.

I was attracted to the Nextiny, Nextgen and In'ax because of the centre post. Thought it would help with winding coils. I'm not actually convinced it helps. It means your mesh has to be completely oxidised internally and externally to prevent shirts. The exposed wick on the Nextiny is very small. I was trying to get a build with high enough resistance for a Le Petit Gros, at least an Ohm. I didn't achieve it and traded it.

I've since got an SXK Le Zephyr. Haven't put it down since it arrived. Thought I was going to have to use reducers or a ton of mesh to fill the 3.75mm wick hole. Turns out that twice the height of #300 worked fine. Pre rolled the coil, unfurled the well oxidised mesh into it. 7/8 wraps if 28/29g getting 1.2-1.4 ohms and a smooth, dense flavourful vape. Maybe the best vape i've experienced. Think the massive surface area helps. The larger of the three hole setting is perfect for that cusp between MTL and Restricted Lung. Would consider an original if I had the cash...

Hadnt heard of that 1, just checked it out on the google.
Seems a similar affair (ie a piece of piss) to coil and wick like the nahualon.
Will be adding that 1 to the list for future purchase.

The Nahualon was a new one for me. Vape Geek have the SXK version. Might check that out, cheers...

[phtumshk]

Apr 29, 2016 15:01:48 GMT domejunky said:

Apr 29, 2016 0:21:45 GMT phtumshk said:

Hadnt heard of that 1, just checked it out on the google.
Seems a similar affair (ie a piece of piss) to coil and wick like the nahualon.
Will be adding that 1 to the list for future purchase.

The Nahualon was a new one for me. Vape Geek have the SXK version. Might check that out, cheers...

Its a nice vape but the draw on it is very restrictive.
Before I drilled mine out it was like trying to get a McDonalds milk shake up the straw.

[domejunky]

I tend to fluctuate between the loose side of tight, and the tight side of loose - one reason why I'm loving Le Zephyr. Might hold out for an Origen MKII, or another Le Zephyr

[domejunky]

Is your forum name from 'The Young Ones'?

[phtumshk]

Apr 29, 2016 15:33:26 GMT domejunky said:

Is your forum name from 'The Young Ones'?

Yeah, was ma nickname at school.
Ma bruva whose a few years older and equally as vertically challenged didnt fair so good, he got stuck wiv ompalumpa lol.

[yourgurnard]

My 'cheat' for the NextGen/Nextiny?..
NR/R/NR wire, twisted for strength (ie. 2x 2.0 ohm for 1.0 ohm).
& Yes, oxidise the f*** outta the mesh before making the wick.
Also, I prefer to make the mesh wick fit the coil rather than wrap the coil 'round the wick.
Still wish FT would supply replacement pin/510 assemblies as spares tho'!!
Is Yours FUBAR'd?..........

[blujim]

If by FUBAR'd you mean f**ked then yes. Another on order. Clone that is. Would still be crying if it wasnt. 
And thanks for all the feedback so far.

If it shorts, what happens?

a) Nothing, it just wont work.

b)big bang,

c) burning smell thats not my flesh

d) something else.
And how was it possible that i seem to have melted/ fused part of it

[decoy]

you can tell by it not reading the right ohmage
they can work but still short
if your using a mech then yep it could do bad things
you can get a metallic taste/smell
and you can get hot spots that you can norm get rid off by pulseing

you have fused part of it because you did not prep the mesh well nuff and it made a dead short in the tank.The main prob with mesh is not nocking off the coating you have built up on it when fitting it

[blujim]

Thanks for the responses folks. Now just to wait for the slow boat from China.....