400 watts FFS

[oldleatherlungs]

A nice weapon to throw at a mugger I would suggest

[jtc]

Aug 6, 2016 23:41:58 GMT oldleatherlungs said:

A nice weapon to throw at a mugger I would suggest

Or poke him in the eye with a stick mod

[mosop]

I can see some merit in it if people want a device that size for sitting on a desk at work or home prob wont keep falling over easily like my xcube

No ones gona use 400 watts hard to find anyone using 200,but then again who uses there car to its max speed all the time and id rather drive a car that can do 150mph at 100mph than in a car that can only do 100mph

4 Batterys isnt easier to carry 2 spare in a plastic box

But who knows i havent been out to my car and measured it yet BUT it might fit snugly in my cup holder and not fall over and stab me in the wrist when i change gear

[buggritt]

Aug 6, 2016 21:46:29 GMT jtc said:

Even though I'm happy at 80 it would mean a nice big boxy mod(which I like) and never stressing the components.

Just as a matter of interest, this "stressing" the components thing crops up now and again. Is there any evidence that this is fact?
Some electrical and mechanical stuff actively benefits from being used to or near capacity.
It's similar to another bugbear of mine - the over kill people have in their minds about batteries. Expensive, i.e. high amps, are for super sub ohmers, the cloud monkies.
New vapers could get confused.
Some idiot will buy this mod, damage himself or others, and off we go with the headlines.

[jtc]

Aug 7, 2016 8:38:53 GMT buggritt said:

Aug 6, 2016 21:46:29 GMT jtc said:

Even though I'm happy at 80 it would mean a nice big boxy mod(which I like) and never stressing the components.

Just as a matter of interest, this "stressing" the components thing crops up now and again. Is there any evidence that this is fact?
Some electrical and mechanical stuff actively benefits from being used to or near capacity.
It's similar to another bugbear of mine - the over kill people have in their minds about batteries. Expensive, i.e. high amps, are for super sub ohmers, the cloud monkies.
New vapers could get confused.
Some idiot will buy this mod, damage himself or others, and off we go with the headlines.

Well you may be proving my ignorance on electrics there, but I just think of it like an engine. Where as a 3 litre would last a lot longer than a 1 litre at 100 mph.Perhaps my theory is wrong with electrics.
I find being called a cloud monkey a little offensive tbh.To me that kind of puts you in the same bracket as those that still diss vaping altogether.
I enjoy a sub ohm vape and a tight 10w draw does not satisfy me, yet I do not go around calling 10 watters names or look down on them.
People should be free to do what they choose in this game as long as it doesn't get in the way and annoy others.
That's my bug bear, people looking down on others, because they do something different to them.
So what!
It's my choice!
And as I always do I will vape the way I want and if people do not like it then tough didies.
I don't hurt anyone else doing it.
There that's my rant done.
Sorry if I appear like a MONKEY and offend you

[buggritt]

It was a serious question, and still stands. If you drive a 3 litre car at 30mph for short distances only, you will kill the car a lot faster than driving it to it's limit.

[jtc]

Aug 7, 2016 9:36:02 GMT buggritt said:

It was a serious question, and still stands. If you drive a 3 litre car at 30mph for short distances only, you will kill the car a lot faster than driving it to it's limit.

I find that hard to believe tbh

[jtc]

I knew a lad who had a 1. Something and drove it from Scotland to Exeter in one go
Guess what
The engine blew
The garage said the engine wasn't man enough to be flat out for that long and he wasn't able to claim under warranty.
It was classed as abuse
So that to me proves your theory wrong
thebishman maybe able to back this up as he's a mechanic?

[Greg]

Aug 7, 2016 8:38:53 GMT buggritt said:

Aug 6, 2016 21:46:29 GMT jtc said:

Even though I'm happy at 80 it would mean a nice big boxy mod(which I like) and never stressing the components.

Just as a matter of interest, this "stressing" the components thing crops up now and again. Is there any evidence that this is fact?
Some electrical and mechanical stuff actively benefits from being used to or near capacity.
It's similar to another bugbear of mine - the over kill people have in their minds about batteries. Expensive, i.e. high amps, are for super sub ohmers, the cloud monkies.
New vapers could get confused.
Some idiot will buy this mod, damage himself or others, and off we go with the headlines.

Have you any evidence for this bold statement as to me it defies common sense, I'm also an ex sparkle and never came across such a theory before. How does it benefit exactly ?

[Deleted]

Short stop start runs will do any engine in be it a 11.6 lt truck engine or a 900cc smart car as most of the wear on any engine is done from cold until its at correct
running temp.
But on a long run the big lazy engine running at low revs is not working very hard but the small engine will be working a lot harder so wearing its poor little nuts off so yes it will wear quicker.
Also quite often the big engine can give better mpg as it is running on very low rpm's whereas the little engine is screaming its tits off so burning fuel quicker.

But to me electrical stuff works or does not work there is no difference if worked hard or soft this is IMHO but i'm not a sparky
so I'm sure somebody like windows would be the better person to answer these sort of Q's

[thebishman]

Aug 7, 2016 10:13:54 GMT @broadblaster said:

Short stop start runs will do any engine in be it a 11.6 lt truck engine or a 900cc smart car as most of the wear on any engine is done from cold until its at correct
running temp.
But on a long run the big lazy engine running at low revs is not working very hard but the small engine will be working a lot harder so wearing its poor little nuts off so yes it will wear quicker.
Also quite often the big engine can give better mpg as it is running on very low rpm's whereas the little engine is screaming its tits off so burning fuel quicker.

But to me electrical stuff works or does not work there is no difference if worked hard or soft this is IMHO but i'm not a sparky
so I'm sure somebody like windows would be the better person to answer these sort of Q's

Pretty much what b road said.

Theres no reason for that one litre car to blow up if it was being driven at sensible rpm though.

[jtc]

Aug 7, 2016 10:23:57 GMT thebishman said:

Aug 7, 2016 10:13:54 GMT @broadblaster said:

Short stop start runs will do any engine in be it a 11.6 lt truck engine or a 900cc smart car as most of the wear on any engine is done from cold until its at correct
running temp.
But on a long run the big lazy engine running at low revs is not working very hard but the small engine will be working a lot harder so wearing its poor little nuts off so yes it will wear quicker.
Also quite often the big engine can give better mpg as it is running on very low rpm's whereas the little engine is screaming its tits off so burning fuel quicker.

But to me electrical stuff works or does not work there is no difference if worked hard or soft this is IMHO but i'm not a sparky
so I'm sure somebody like windows would be the better person to answer these sort of Q's

Pretty much what b road said.

Theres no reason for that one litre car to blow up if it was being driven at sensible rpm though.

I think he was running his small engine at 100mph pretty much all the way and it couldn't handle it.
It's common sense to me that running anything flat out won't last as long as taking it easy on something.
In his theory a single cell running flat out on thin gauge wire should have a longer lifetime than say 4 cells running at a quarter capacity on thicker wire.
I'm no sparky but that doesn't ring true to me.
Anyway I like that there's an option of a mod with 4 cells even if I think vaping at 400 watts is excessive.
The battery life would suit me and I like large heavy box mods.
It just suits my life style and what's wrong with that.
I certainly won't be running everything I have flat out with the theory things will last longer

[jtc]

Aug 7, 2016 9:36:02 GMT buggritt said:

It was a serious question, and still stands. If you drive a 3 litre car at 30mph for short distances only, you will kill the car a lot faster than driving it to it's limit.

Maybe it would need servicing more often(especially a diesel) but die faster, hmmm nah I don't think so