Above sub oHm vaping?

[bobby00]

Hi All'

I just want to try making a coil or double coil set up to try about 1 to 1.5 ohm as I hear the battery lasts longer and you don't have to use such hi wattage  aand still get good flavour?

I stand to be corrected as my only defence is I haven't got a clue so all suggestions appreciated?

Thanks
Bob

[decoy]

depends on what tank and wire you have
high ohm tends to use less air flow so you have to use wot they call a mtl type tank(use it like a fag) and much high nic juice
i use mtl type vapeing to stop the need for nic and lung hit to make huge clouds and sometimes more flavour
mtl vapeing can make 10ml of juice last a week instead of 20 mins in a silly sub ohm tank
one 18650 batt will last all day at 1.5 ohm or 20 mins at 0.2 ohms

get yourself a kayfun v5 or v3 clone from fast tech(other china sights are available lol) and some 0.2 and 0.3 wire and have a play
as long as you have a regulated mod(one with variable voltage you are safe)

i do sub ohm but boy do you use juice

[Lee]

I'm running a couple of protank 4's with duel coils at 1.2ohm

Think it was 11 wraps of 28 kanthal on a 3mm hole, on each coil

[charliehorse]

Depending on the tank, 0.3mm kanthal 7 1/2 wraps on a 2mm former coming in around 1.3 ohms is a decent starting point.

[phtumshk]

Jul 10, 2017 19:51:45 GMT charliehorse said:

Depending on the tank, 0.3mm kanthal 7 1/2 wraps on a 2mm former coming in around 1.3 ohms is a decent starting point.

This used to be my go to coil in the old kayfuns upto the V4.

[bobby00]

I've got a kayfun lite coming fro ftech so presumably those will work on that?
What gauge is .2 or .3 as I have some awg 30?

I need to buy some wire what's best type and place?

It's all flavour for me also realise I don't like to hot a 💨 vape so anything under 35w is fine for me?

Also watched qorax doing ss mesh for wicking? He seems to swear by it and says flavours great and all his builds are around 1-1.5 ohm?

Thanks for advice this is like going back to school pmsl

[Lee]

If you use a kuro coiler for making your coils, thinnest wire you can use is awg 28

[djs]

Jul 10, 2017 21:25:50 GMT Lee said:

If you use a kuro coiler for making your coils, thinnest wire you can use is awg 28

I never knew that. Goes to show how long since I've used thin wire.
Can still use the Kuro for spaced coils and then squashed up with tweezers, I guess.

[phtumshk]

AWG 28 is .32mm (which is pretty much .3mm in my books)

[VapingBad]

Make (almost) no difference unless you are on a fixed voltage or mech mod, this whole sub-ohm thing is just irrelevant to today's vapers. Sub ohm is a completely stupid term that should be ruthlessly taken the pish out of IMO unless you have a mech or fixed voltage device where ohms set the power. It made sense for a very short time a few years ago, then got high-jacked as a nonsense marketing term that stuck and causes untold confusion to this day, high/low power make far more sense and are universally applicable. Though sub ohm coils tend to be bigger, but it's the bigger bit that requires/handles more power not the ohms on most mods, then step forward to recent years and different materials and multiple coils (not to mention airflow and wicking) and you can not do like for like with ohms, well you never could really in any absolutely sense, different gauges etc.

Whoever went into to the shop and wanted a sub ohm (particular res) toaster, kettle electric bar fire, nonsense, complete and utter bollos that hangs around like... (I could go too far with this metaphor, so will abstain).


BTW it makes little difference to battery current requirements unless you have an unregulated/mech mod, another heinous vapersphere crime against conmen sense that soo many proudly spread.


Not against you at all bobby00 , a load of folks are thinking/asking the same, but this rubbish doesn't seem to know it's own sell by date (people repeating what they don't understand as if they did because some twatt they respect just keep repeating it)

[keepitgoin]

Nowt wrong with Vaping above 1oHm! I started around 1.4oHm 4 years ago, and now go as low as 1.2 oHm on my Tanks with single coil.
On a Dripper I might go to 0.6 oHm if Dual coil.
2 (dual coil) = 1/2 the oHm. e.g. 2 coils at 1oHm = 0.5 oHm together.
More watts, and lower oHms = Warm (hot) Vape
I use Kanthal, 26 or 28 guage (I bought a small roll 4 years ago, still got loads left!) 6,7, or 8 wraps 3mm inner diameter (buy a coil jig) will give 1oHm+ normally.
DON'T fire a coil 'til you check the resistance!!!!!
Kayfun Lite is a fine tank.
Keep away from Stainless as a wick until you have more experience in rebuilding your own stuff.
Most folk use cotton wool as wick. It's cheap enough and each wick uses bugger all, so no need to buy loads.

[DaveJ]

What they all said ^^^^

I always vape "super ohm" = over that mythical magical 1 ohm number. But like VapingBad says, that's pretty irrelevant on a regulated mod. So long as your coil is sound and without shorts and measures within your mod's ability to fire, you are good to go.

Basically - it comes down to how much metal is in contact with your juice and how much heat (watts) is heating that metal.

Kayfun Lites will struggle if you try to take 'em up anywhere near 35 watts using regular simple coils. Getting that sort of power thro 30 gauge wire simple coil .... I believe it can be done, but takes skill beyond my ability. But start simple and easy and make it work. Then, if you wish, experiment with more and bigger

7 or 8 wraps of 30 gauge kanthal around a 2.5 mm mandrel will work out to something like 1.6 to 1.8 or so very safe and battery friendly ohms on that Kayfun lite you've got coming. It'll take 15 to 18 watts when wicked correctly with cotton and give a damned decent tasty vape. Not cloud chaser stuff by any means, but good and satisfying. Note that Kayfun juice channels are not large and likely will struggle with thick (VG heavy) juices (especially in your cooler climate) - unless you start mauling them with something like a dremel (I've been there).

I still run some Kayfun lites. I run 26 guage kanthal using 8 wraps around a 2.5 mm mandral (much bigger diameter doesn't easily fit in there) and run about 16 to 18 watts thro 'em. They'll take a bit more, but that makes for a mighty fine Mouth To Lung vape in my opinion.

[jtc]

If the coil fits and works well then I'm happy. Atm I'm using a ss clapton at 0.13 ohms and only 50w. It's an absolutely amazing vape 😉😄

[striker42]

Nothing wrong with a bit of experimenting when it comes to coils bobby00 . . . . . . . . . . . as long as It's conducted in a safe manner. You will also find as you move along on the vaping journey, that different coils work better in different tanks. For most part I coil with 24 gauge kanthal in dual coil tanks and RDA's. I've a couple of serpent mini's that are single coil and have a 0.5ohm Clapton in them, which for me provides best results. Still have a Kayfun lite plus for those mouth to lung moments coiled st 1.2 ohms. Last week I coiled an Ammit dual for a friend at work here was the result



Dual fused Clapton. I can tell you this, I'll definitely not be in a hurry to vape at those numbers again, he loves it. Each to their own.

[Lee]

When I started to vape, mods ran at 11watts max and coils were about 2.5ohm that came with the protanks

Lower ohm coils = more juice used = higher sales on liquids in shops

Why sell 10ml a week to a customer, when you can fool them into 10ml a day