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Post by jiggsbro on Jul 2, 2012 12:57:28 GMT
I Also have a brand new desert vape Steeping and should be ready by the weekend. I will keep the name close to my chest for now but, what i will say is it tastes fantastic and the smell here is just like a carribean cake shop!! Mary Jane Forest Gateau?
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Post by jiggsbro on Jun 30, 2012 23:09:45 GMT
And for what it's worth, if I bought an electrical appliance that was dangerously faulty under proper use, and I suffered injury, I wouldn't regard myself as a quick buck merchant if I sought compensation. What happened to the UK was that it decided no longer to tolerate the quick buck merchants who produced shoddy goods and put consumers in danger. Manufacturers who produce goods which are safe under normal use, and who provide clear and precise instructions on the use of the appliance, aren't vulnerable to ambulance chasers. So, sometimes that means "May contain nuts" has to be printed on a packet of nuts. I'd rather have that than Chinese* toys with sharp metal edges or exploding batteries near my face.
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Post by jiggsbro on Jun 30, 2012 22:59:06 GMT
All of my systems use the circuitary out of existing known devices but with added safety features. That wouldn't be much help in law, I don't imagine. You've removed the circuitry from the device for which it was intended and put it into your own device. If you don't tell the consumer the device they're buying has been made in part from second-hand components designed for a different device, you'd be liable for a claim there, regardless of any danger or damage. You'd be especially liable in a claim for damages if you could not show that you had fully tested all the parts you re-used.
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Post by jiggsbro on Jun 30, 2012 22:54:29 GMT
Somewhere subject to UK law? Can't say I remember... As that line is used in quite many vendors Terms... Do google "These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease. Information and statements made are for educational purposes and are not intended to replace the advice of your health care professional. By purchasing these products, you agree to use products at your own risk."Moju-shapeyou-vaprlife-mystmasters-cov-bestprobioticsforwomen-genecig-freecigs-exploringpsychics and so forth.. So it's quite generic c/p It's generic American. I'm pretty certain it wouldn't stand up in English law. You can't, as a consumer, be asked to sign away your rights when purchasing something simply by purchasing it. As a supplier, you protect yourself against misuse of potentially dangerous goods by providing clear guidelines on safe use and by ensuring they are safe under normal use.
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Post by jiggsbro on Jun 30, 2012 18:12:56 GMT
Legal
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^c/p from somewhere...
Somewhere subject to UK law?
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Post by jiggsbro on Jun 30, 2012 13:48:22 GMT
I'm not sure that's relevant to whether the maker/seller has legal responsibility. I'd consider much more than the list of selling points, but my final choice would have no bearing on whether I could sue the seller, only on which seller I sued.
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Post by jiggsbro on Jun 30, 2012 10:55:24 GMT
Nicotine is pretty much odourless. Too much of it will certainly give you a headache, just as too much of any stimulant (e.g. caffeine) will give you a headache. If you mixed a liquid at 31mg, thinking it was 18mg, it's probably going to give you a headache.
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Post by jiggsbro on Jun 30, 2012 10:52:14 GMT
I quite agree Annie I just used to grab my tin and lighter and out the door now I sit and think what flavour will I take with me today will I take the big battery or the small battery what colour of tip will I use That's the main reason I didn't think vaping would suit me: it was more complicated than just smoking. Then the complications turned out to be part of the fun.
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Post by jiggsbro on Jun 30, 2012 10:49:19 GMT
It is, of course, entirely coincidental that you've taken up vaping at about the same time as you've given up smoking. Ecigs are not an aid to smoking cessation. Oh no. Definitely not. Nor are they a drug delivery device. Or any sort of health product. In fact, without proper scientific trials, there is no evidence that vaping is any less dangerous than playing in traffic. I know of a soldier in Afghanistan who was a vaper and he lost both his legs, so think on.
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Post by jiggsbro on Jun 30, 2012 9:29:12 GMT
I have read the thread, thanks. I'm simply pointing out the legal flaws in the artificial defence of selling mods as 'display pieces'. Similarly, selling them without batteries is no defence if they become dangerous when batteries are inserted (and they're clearly designed to have batteries inserted). If the instructions do not make it clear which batteries are safe and which are not, and the circumstances in which batteries might become unsafe, then it really doesn't matter whether it was sold with batteries or not. In fact, selling with batteries, as long as they're the recommended, safe batteries, would be more of a defence, especially if you've made it clear to the buyer that the batteries you've supplied are appropriate and that those are the only type of battery that they should use. If you sell a device designed to take batteries, the user does not take liability simply by inserting batteries: the liability remains with the manufacturer, who has a duty to provide a safe product with clear instructions on how to use it safely and clear warnings on how to avoid risk. It's rarely a good idea to assume that what seems like common sense is therefore how the law sees things. There's rarely any connection between the law and common sense.
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Post by jiggsbro on Jun 29, 2012 22:19:57 GMT
3ml of 52mg Nic in a 5ml mix would be ~31mg level. Divide the nicotine strength (52) by the size of the final mix (5) and multiply by the amount of nicotine (3). Or the other way round, the amount of nicotine required can be found by multiplying the strength required (18) by the size of the final mix (5) and dividing by the actual nicotine strength (52). So that's ~1.7ml of 52mg nicotine liquid in a 5ml mix to get 18mg strength liquid. Try downloading and using this calculator: breaktru.com/ejuicemeup.zip (http://ejuice.breaktru.com/)
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Post by jiggsbro on Jun 29, 2012 22:15:28 GMT
I want to make a 5ml sample ... So i'm thinking this is right: 3ml Nicotine 1ml of VG 1ml of vodka and 1ml flavour Would that be right Well, it would be 6ml, so that's not the best start.
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Post by jiggsbro on Jun 29, 2012 21:58:27 GMT
Legally, the fact that you have sold them something designed to take batteries and be used as an electrical appliance would probably over-ride any conceit that it was a 'display piece'. A court would be likely to rule that there was an implicit understanding of use for purpose. The best defence is to make something that is safe when used appropriately, that has clear instructions on how to use it appropriately and that has clear warnings about specific, identified, inappropriate uses and the likely outcomes of such inappropriate uses.
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Post by jiggsbro on Jun 29, 2012 21:47:55 GMT
((((( Dee ))))) So sorry to hear you've been so poorly. Apologies for digressing your wire thread, but you can get Probiotic's in capsule form, which may help your poor tum as they'll repopulate your gut with good bacteria. Doctors in Scotland have apparently pioneered a treatment for C. Diff., which requires that the guts be repopulated with other bacteria. It's good if the bacteria they add are the same as you had before they were all killed and C. Diff. flourished in their place. Fortunately, people in the same family unit, with the same diet, tend to have the same bacteria in their systems. So they take a donation of bacteria from a family member. This donation is in the most easily obtainable form...a stool sample. They liquidise the stool sample and introduce it to the stomach of the patient via a tube down the oesophagus. They feed the patient their relative's liquid poo. I like to remember that whenever I'm dealing with sh!t; at least I'm not dealing with that sh!t.
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Post by jiggsbro on Jun 28, 2012 16:27:54 GMT
Flavorarts' 'Black fire tobacco' is a very good, very strong tobacco flavour concentrate, if he does want to mix his own.
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