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Brilliant post, the voice of reason and experience chykensa. I've just had a colleague at work approach me regarding the equipment he had purchased from his local B&M store. On producing the goods, he thought he had purchased an istick 20w and a nautilus mini. On closer inspection, the istick is a clone, the tank looked authentic but not having a great deal of experience with that model, I couldn't say with any certainty. So istck 20w clone, mini nauty with 10ml of juice allegedly thrown in for free = £70    He knew by the look on my face that he had been taken to the cleaners for his hard earned cash. The device, as far as I could tell was faulty, it appeared to be firing at full power no matter what it was set at. I tried a kayfun on it 1.2 ohm, 9w and it burnt the wick on the third drag. A new coil for the nauty lasted a whole 5 minutes and that was burnt too. So not too happy, he asked what I was using which was a sigelei 75w with a sub tank mini and another colleague who was using a smok xpro with an atlantis. He is now using a sig 75 and a subtank mini which I sold him and has been doing so very happily for the last 10 days, those 10 days have been completely fag free. What I've done on this occassion might incur the wrath of a few members here, starting somebody off sub ohming and some may say I have been irresponsible by doing so. Having spent a few hours explaining all sorts to him and learning him about safe vaping, I can live happily with the decision I've made. I feel it would have been irresponsible if I had said nothing and allowed him to go off and purchase the set up on his own (which he would have done anyway) and he ended up getting things wrong, causing personal or property damage. The information given by chykensa is spot on and the actions I exercised above are not what I would normally recommend, but on this occasion I was caught between a rock and a hard place.