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You are not worthwhile replying to, at least no more than this, sorry to say.

Just one thing, dear non-vindictive person, if you happen to cross every decency border and PM my PM to anyone, take care not to alter it in any way. I have a copy myself. I say this because I'm certain you can't be trustworthy, sorry again.

Can I have a ruling from a mod, please, as well? PMs are PMs and are nowhere allowed to be publicly shown in any forums I'm aware of. Plus the "insulting" term used by this person is subjective. He, as well as a few other members, have chosen me as a target to publicly sabotage my chances of ever doing any worthwhile selling at AAEC. I have explained as much as I can explain over and over and over and some people, namely and probably mostly brianfletch, still aren't satisfied. I haven't PMd anyone else because nobody else deserved it the same way he did - I don't spend my time PMing people with "insults" (note the brackets) unless there is a fairly good reason. No, I really don't spend my time sending "insulting" PMs to people. I don't think brianfletch is using of good faith and all I want is to be left alone. If you think I haven't been outrageously sabotaged by people, namely and mostly brianfletch, who haven't got a clue as to how much work and thought have been put behind Amazing Vape and how much patience I have to have to put up calmly with the kind of posts I got, please contact me and ban me. If you agree that something very wrong went on here, that I've never seen happening anywhere else, I'd even ask you to give a warning to brianfletch but no, all I ask is to let this incredible thing stop - because I'm sure he can' go on and on and on. This is seriously disgusting, I'm sorry to say. Never before seen.

Now, please, allow me to quote myself, since I'm not such an idiot as to think everybody here is brianfletch:

I'd like to add, in all fairness, that even though this thread has been corrupted, the forum has many more members than the ones that showed here in a continuous manner. Everyone's still very welcome if they think some of our products suit them and will certainly be well treated - as friends.

Goodbye. I tried my best. I'm doing my best. And you have no idea how much work and negotiating is behind it all. It seems *you* haven't been willing to listen. This is totally regrettable.

I'm not your slave and you're totally free to buy or not to buy, I'm not pushing anything on you. By the way, I made a few changes to the replacements part just so that it may become clearer. Finally, I know this is not what a vendor would say, but you won't be buying anything anyway, so: don't you have more constructive things to do?

Womble, please let's stop it.

a) I'm not going to explain this again - "As for you saying that you will refund if something is broken only, but it's impossible for it to be broken" - because I already have. It's in the thread. And in the TOS for anybody who can understand. Suppliers don't have to be people with bad intentions (it's not even in their best interest) and just the same everybody knows there are loads of "dangerous customers" around the world. Would you agree and do you realize that a supplier/vendor must protect himself? Or would you prefer it if I didn't make anything clear and then simply pretended nothing was happening if something actrually happened? It would be much easier for me to sell something like that, you know...

b) "And from any other forum in the UK, if they don't read the terms and something goes wrong, then you will be lambasted" - I hope you noticed how unlike every other supplier I clearly told everyone to read the TOS - and I probably happen to have the most readable TOS I have seen so far; of course, I haven't taken a look at every TOS there are but I'm guessing and I'm probably right. I even have that "Important - read before you buy!" thing for all to see and I'm certain you've never seen anything like that anywhere else.

c) "Oh and generally we prefer vendors to take on board any criticisms and try to at least address them with an open mind" - how much more open should I be when I'm doing the best prices and giving the best explanations I possibly can? And how nicer should I be when I'm clearly bombarded as I've never seen anywhere else by people to whom I never caused any kind of loss whatsoever?

Thanks for wishing me luck. I understand your concerns but, let me say this just from a personal perspective, throughout the thread I've been shown a couple of well chosen examples (in spite of the copycat example, which leaves us with one example) of better deals; still, as a vaper myself, I'm aware of the general conditions and prices (also of how, for instance, freeshipping works and I was sad to see Misteliquid disappear probably because of that, even if vendors have to get their posting money some place) , both of products and of the shipping, including in the UK. I've often paid very different prices from the ones shown here, namely from the UK, with rather excessive shipping costs at times as well. Furthermore, it takes a week for a product to get from the UK to Portugal for some reason I'm not really familiar with. When I buy something, I never buy it because it's cheap, I buy it because I want it. I also buy from China - specific things.
Healthcabin is nice, I agree. I buy a few things there myself - because they have some things that I want and because I plan ahead. But if you buy frtom HC I assure you you will have to wait double of what you may expect from me - the reason is their orders seem to travel around China before getting to the airport and maybe, just maybe they aren't that well related in the airport when compared to my supplier. PLus, maybe I shouldn't mention this, but it makes sense and I'll say it as a vaper and a customer: do you remember when recently they decided to tell the world their shipping costs had risen due to the sudden rise in the prices of the Chinese Registered Airmail and then had to simply get back on that as if nothing had happened in between?

You do not have to buy from me. The part about getting things the next day I can understand. Put yourself in my shoes if you can: how much more open should I be? Peace.

Hi. I have a list of fixed prices I can send you. There are very unreasonable recommended prices and also minimum prices. For the UK as well, but maybe Joyetech's half asleep sometimes or something. Just send me an email and I'll send you the list that now only applies to the eGo-C.

As for why I can't have a stock - which would obviously make things easier - I told Chrissie why when I first contacted her. She understood. As well as admins in other forums. I know having my own stock is different, of course.

No, it's not impossible. Just difficult. The delivery prices aren't that bad when you come to think of it (I think you mean the shipping costs) - in fact, I wanted to add shipping costs according to weight but Paypal didn't let me (at least in Europe, I know it's possible in the States). Still, the shipping costs value/no-value depend on what you buy. I'm really not making money out of it despite what calculations you may have made. Of course they are shipped from China: don't you ever buy from China or the US? The prices? Now, come on, frankly, I shouldn't have to explain this much but genuine/not copycats Joyetech products (now just the eGo-C) have a minimum retail price with VAT and I'm not even charging the VAT at the moment, which took a bit of negotiating with the Chinese. Finally, I'm not allowed to sell at lower prices than those the suppliers have and you probably think you buy cheap in China while the prices are basically similar. So, what on earth are you actually saying? ???