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Post by Timbo on Sept 12, 2013 9:52:11 GMT
Any recommendations one what range to go for on 28vapes?
Or is it really down to personal preference?
I hear some good things about the perfumers apprentice.
I shall purchase the bubblegum from Lorann.
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Post by Timbo on Sept 12, 2013 9:33:24 GMT
Not sure if we've actually said hi, Timbo so welcome! I must admit that I find your problem a tricky one to answer. I have had some great tasting juice from Joosejuice, and full of flavour. I also use a variety of different flavourings from different manufacturers in my homemade juices, and can't understand why you aren't getting the flavour through. Could you just run through your vaping gear again for me so I know exactly what you are using? For information, I generally use a Vamo on VW set to about 7.5w with Protanks or the occasional Vivi Nova. I recoil my own heads using 2 or 3mm Ekowool and .2 Kanthal, and aim for around the 2.0ohm mark as I find this gives me a good all-round vape. My own juices are generally around 12mg and I prefer a 50/50 mix with a maximum of 25% flavouring, although that's only for one particular recipe, the others are 20%. You seem to be trying all the right things and I just can't understand why you aren't getting flavour. Can you tell us if there is one juice in particular that you have tried where you DID get full-on flavour? This might help us to work out the missing link. Steeping - check. VV/VW - check. Different ohm heads - check. Different VG/PG ratios - check (I think!). If I was mixing a juice for full flavour I would use 60/40 PG/VG, steep for at least 2 weeks, use up to 20% concentrate, and vape at the wattage mentioned above. If you are doing all this, I'm not sure what else to suggest! Fingers crossed  ETA: one other idea has come to me after initial posting - try using a different calculator - the EJuiceMeUp that we mostly all use can be found at the top of each Recipe page, and is quick and logical to use. It might just be that there is a small flaw in the calculator that you use which is throwing the percentages out a bit. Worth a try, plus we all use it so can help you. Hello chykensa, thank you for your welcoming :-) I am currently using a vamo and two standard ego batteries (think they are called that) Protank mini 2, protank 2 and a ce4 I think from fast tech. I use silica wick, have not tried ekowool but that can't be the issue. Full on flavours I have had in the past are menthol, some Bubblegum including joosejuice, choco delight (lt cigs, very flavoursome from what I remember) The 28vapes site looks great! I will purchase some concentrates from there and play around some more. Thank you everyone for all your tips. P.s ekowool would not make the difference here would it?! As I have loads of silica wick  |
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Post by Timbo on Sept 12, 2013 9:02:27 GMT
Or indeed, Cap Bubblegum is rubbish, try Lorann Bubblegum  So you literally can use cake flavoring oils?! I noticed they have PG in them so I presume that's true. |
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Post by Timbo on Sept 12, 2013 8:47:33 GMT
Or indeed, Cap Bubblegum is rubbish, try Lorann Bubblegum Great I will have a look. Can anyone recommend a strong tasting selection of sweet e liquid for mixing? Like skittles, I actually want to taste the rainbow not just see it ;-) |
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Post by Timbo on Sept 12, 2013 8:44:25 GMT
I make juice generally at 20% flavouring, 80% VG. I put it in either an Evod, mini Protank or more recently, my Aurora. The latter produces the strongest flavour, but I can always taste the juice. So either your taste buds are shot after smoking, which can happen, and you could investigate such things as powerful mouthwash, pickled onion crisps or menthol; or like dragon says, your voltage or wattage is too low or high, and you need to have a play around to find what works for you. My OH has post-nasal drip (much mucus) which means most sweet juices to him taste like bland strawberry. But he does get more flavour from nutty or mild tobacco-y juices like Longbottom Leaf and RY4 Nutzilla. Surely my taste buds would be fine after seven month of vaping! Should be brand new by now ;-) I am going to blame it on joosejuice eliquids as I find their flavouring to be very weak. That's taste and smell. I am also going to blame the capella bubblegum as it seems to not be the best. |
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Post by Timbo on Sept 12, 2013 8:36:38 GMT
I want to help! Tastebuds are funny things, and everyone seems to be different. Personally I always get significantly less flavour in a BCC. Never heard anyone else say that though ??? I find the iClears give me the most flavour, but again I have read time and again that they give less flavour than most BCCs iClear16s are really cheap at myepack atm. might be worth trying one, if you like it then you could consider the iClear30 which has a bigger tank. What kind of volts are you throwing at this stuff? Different flavours taste more at different power levels, playing with Volts can help you find the sweet spot. I am using a protank 2 so I should not be having any issues seeing as it's so widely used. Regards to the volts, I can't change the voltage on my out and about batteries so it is what ever it feels like! When at home with the vamo I have always found different voltages either give you more vapor or burnt taste when changing voltage. For me it doesn't physically change the quality of the flavour. Usually vape around 3.5-4 depending on ohms, sometimes a lot higher. |
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Post by Timbo on Sept 12, 2013 8:29:09 GMT
If you're having trouble tasting both pre-made and homemade juice, I'd say the issue is likely to be your taste buds, bud  What % flavouring did you use and of what? And yes you can tweak recipes after they're made, but you will be messing with the ratios and will likely create something unrepeatable unless you can do the maths (I can't) and record it faithfully. It's OK if you want to rescue something, but perhaps less so if you want to make a decent stock recipe. I can't tweak my taste buds though haha! I put in 10% bubblegum flavour from the alchemist cupboard. I then added another 10% after steep and still no different. Am I the only one who feels this way? |
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Post by Timbo on Sept 12, 2013 8:15:55 GMT
Anyone?!
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Post by Timbo on Sept 11, 2013 21:12:47 GMT
I am really struggling getting much flavour, out of a scale of ten I would honestly say 1. This is in a Protank 2 mini and Protank 2 and Evod. Dripping is not much of an improvement, also not much fun having to keep topping up so much. E liquid I am using is from JooseJuice, I have let them steep for a month, I have also mixed my own juice, still having the same problem. I even added extra flavour to my mixed bubblegum, still no difference. Ratio I am using is 70/30 pg/vg. This also happens with stock wicks and re wicks using 2mm silica wick/ .20 mm kanthal wire. It is getting me really frustrated  It really is just a hint of flavour not a full on 'wow' that was a lovely tastefull vape right there. Someone please help me with this and my above question. I should really start a new thread but I felt it still went under the title of this one I started. I did not want to just start a load of other threads asking all of this. Thank you for your time. |
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Post by Timbo on Sept 11, 2013 18:02:03 GMT
Can you tweak a mix after you have let it steep? It could do with some more VG and flavour, can I just chuck it into the pot? Bit like cooking in the kitchen testing to see if there is enough garlic, if not you add more Not to much though, may be a bit wiffy on the breath the next day |
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Post by Timbo on Sept 10, 2013 11:15:57 GMT
Well if the logic in the film world war z is true I would make myself ill.
If not I would get lots of supplies and go grab a boat. Anchor up somewhere far out, crack open a beer and wait for it to all blow over :-)
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Post by Timbo on Sept 10, 2013 11:07:35 GMT
Knock them out with my vamo
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Post by Timbo on Sept 6, 2013 15:05:15 GMT
Sorry I meant 70/30.
Thanks a lot, that cleared it up!
Time to get mixing.
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Post by Timbo on Sept 6, 2013 14:24:04 GMT
Ok thanks alot remnant, and what about the ratio? |
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Post by Timbo on Sept 6, 2013 13:48:53 GMT
Also it does not say how to do the vg/pg ratio like 80/30 or am I missing something?
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It really is just a hint of flavour not a full on 'wow' that was a lovely tastefull vape right there.