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Post by spikeychops on Jul 28, 2011 12:34:30 GMT
(posted to UKV too)
Great stuff Steve, all done.
Working very nicely, thanks for your help mate.
I'm all set now, have my lovely rebuildable attie, my clearo and carto tanks, no leaks anywhere.
Nice job Steve.
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Post by spikeychops on Jul 28, 2011 11:16:50 GMT
Received with thanks Clockworks and Christophe.
Very easy to use, (no unscrewing 8 or 9 separate bits), works very well (which is always a bonus!), no leaking, nice middle of the road draw, good flavour and vapour and looks very nice sitting on top of my Provari. (and relatively cheap to buy too!)
Cheers guys, very nice device.
One thing i've discovered, (not a negative but more of an obvious observation) is to keep it topped up (can put about 15 drops or 3/4 of a ml) or else i can detect a slight (very slight) rubber taste begin to creep in to the vapour. It's probably where the coil is starting to heat the white rubber centre seal a little bit, not burning it mind you - but just heating it enough to release a little taste into the vapour.
Keep it topped up and this doesn't happen.
Like the look of the carto tank too Clockworks, dinky little end caps make it look nice and refined (and reduce weight a little) just about to try it out, but need a little instruction first if i may.
The cap with the ridge cut into it is i assume the top cap?
The top of the (mouthpiece end) carto tube sits against this ridge yes?
Do i disassemble the tank or just push the carto up through the non-ridged cap (bottom cap?) and approx how far up the carto's SS tube do i punch the small hole? I'm guessing about 10-15mm up, but want to check with you first.
Very impressed, thanks a lot.:good:
Andy.
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Post by spikeychops on Jul 27, 2011 20:51:28 GMT
Was your box opened Dee?
Wondering if it was whether or not whoever opened yours forgot to sling the battery and end cap back in the box?
Glad you like it AndnAnge, i like the weight of it, adds to the quality, substantial feel.
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Post by spikeychops on Jul 27, 2011 19:17:21 GMT
Thanks mate.
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Post by spikeychops on Jul 27, 2011 13:51:19 GMT
Yeah, nice one Andy...good aren't they.
Glad it came through quickly for you.
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Post by spikeychops on Jul 27, 2011 13:41:38 GMT
No, don't worry rog, walking down the street smoking isn't illegal (yet!), so you're ok.
Some twit of a councillor in Bucks was trying to make it illegal in his high street..he was the only one for it.
In the case of this woman at the bus stop, technically speaking, even if she was smoking a fag in the shelter, it's not a 'criminal offence' at all, it's more of a civil thing, and only the bus company could have taken action. Just because a company or corporation puts a sign up telling you not to smoke, it doesn't give them any lawful right to issue you a fine.
Everyone in the UK has the right to due process under law. In other words, you have the right to hear the charges against you, see the evidence against you (if any exists), and have the opportunity to refute them via a defence in court.
Simply sending an *official looking and lawyer-esque worded* letter demanding money as a fine, doesn't cut the mustard in this country, and is in fact (believe it or not) illegal. Most will simply be frightened of the system enough to immediately pay any 'fine' demanded, and this is what is counted on to raise money.
Direct action like you suggest is certainly one way to highlight ecigs and make the majority of people aware of them, but it might have a negative effect of forcing legislation that we might not want to see brought about. As the law stands now, you can vape literally anywhere you want to.
Having said that, in a shop or supermarket or similar place, the owner or operator has the right to ask you to leave if you don't stop 'smoking' your ecig, but has no authority or powers to compel you to stop vaping, fine or demand money from you, or confiscate your gear.
The time for mass direct action would probably be when the busy body's decide to talk about banning or taxing the hell out of ecigs.
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Post by spikeychops on Jul 27, 2011 11:14:58 GMT
Agreed Hifi, very childish.
And plod said because there were 'fag butts on the floor'...oh well, that's conclusive then!!! 'She was seen'..ahem, a looky likey ecig, will look exactly like a tobacco cigarette to the untrained eye, that's pretty much the point of the design.
Even after she showed him *proof* that she was at the *very least* in possession of an electronic cigarette, that looked very much like a tobacco analogue especially to people ignorant of ecigs..the berk still had the cheek to write it up as a civil infraction.
The burden of proof beyond *reasonable doubt* (key phrase) has to be at the feet of those who want her money...not the other way around, ever.
She showed the..ahem..'officer' that what she was smoking was an electronic facsimile, if he is too thick to understand the difference, that's his problem.
My advice (unprofessional advice) to anyone in a similar boat, is to either ignore the demand for money (it's illegal to demand money as a fine without first going to court...DVLA is currently being prosecuted for doing the same thing) or demand your day in court. In which case, if there has been a crime committed, the prosecution (who would probably never take it as far as court anyway) has to prove she was actually smoking.
I seriously doubt the com-plod bagged the 'fag butts on the floor' for DNA testing/evidence to match any of them to the accused, i doubt too that the woman stoolie made a written statement, and it's also doubtful that there is video or photographic evidence...and the 'accused' was in possession of and produced an electronic cigarette to the com-plod, which she explained to him and still maintains is what was mistaken for a tobacco cigarette.
There is *no* case against this woman, none that stand up to the level of evidential scrutiny required by law anyway.
If she pays the fine, she'll be playing directly into their hands...paying up is akin (in a legal sense) to admitting your guilt.
Don't forget the economic climate we find ourselves in folks...the police and courts have all been hit financially and the money has to come from other sources, in other words from all of us on trumped up charges like this one appears to be, and rely on public ignorance of the system / fear of prosecution to get them to cough up.
I'm dying to get something similar to happen to me, but all i get is weird looks (nothing unusual there then!), i'd love to go to court for 'smoking' my ecig....all the expenses, costs and compensation that would be coming my way would be handy right about now!
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Post by spikeychops on Jul 26, 2011 13:29:38 GMT
Curious if anyone has had any problems with customs / airport security wondering if you're smuggling liquid explosives (in your juice) or something.
As it is, most people don't know what these things are, we get a lot of weird looks from people around town when they spot our mods and us toking on them!
Anyone been stopped or had juice or equipment taken from them?
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Post by spikeychops on Jul 25, 2011 20:10:03 GMT
Good idea with the link clutter..hopefully she'll come back and tell us what went on.
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Post by spikeychops on Jul 25, 2011 19:59:49 GMT
Blimey River...3 months? That's value for money alright!
Maybe the couple i tried were just touchy..as i say Chris really reckons them, she's been using the same one for a couple of weeks. I've another one on the go now (swapping over now and again with my Arry tank) so i'll see how i get on with it.
I was using just plain 3.7V mods on it. I felt that it was being burnt though, because blowing out the excess juice after filling, there was a fair bit of dark juice coming out of it and the steel tube was getting hot.
I'm using a new one on my Provari at 4.0 volts (won't go to 5V on it), so i'll see how i get on with it.
If not, i'll take Perpy's advice and try a clear one.
Not too much of a big deal though, between my Arry clearo tank and the clockworks attie and carto tank, i'm getting, i'll be alright anyway.
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Post by spikeychops on Jul 25, 2011 9:10:20 GMT
Anyone else feel that the draw get's very tight on these DC cartos after a day of use?
Only seems to be affecting me, as my wife Chris get's on very well with them and has been using the same one for nearly two weeks...one lasts me a couple of days then it feels like trying to suck a ping pong ball through a straw.
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Post by spikeychops on Jul 25, 2011 8:53:31 GMT
No problem Chrissie, i'll let you know if i hear anything.
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Post by spikeychops on Jul 25, 2011 8:51:51 GMT
Apart from this dripping attie working as described, there's another reason for buying one of these.
*IF* the powers that be decide to ban or restrict / tax sales of ecig related devices here, having one of these means we always have access to vaping. With our own rebuildable atties, and some wire and wick we'd beat a ban and tax/import restrictions.
Nic juice can be made DIY from soaking tobacco in water to extract the nicotine (soak some baccy in water) and flavourings aren't a problem, so juice isn't really a problem, not having an atty or carto etc would be.
Just in case.
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Post by spikeychops on Jul 25, 2011 8:36:32 GMT
I've just emailed 'mintiemum' through ebay, offering advice and asking for updates.
Hopefully she'll come back to me and let me know.
If so, i'll post what i discover here.
Just so other members know, if i were in a similar situation, there is no way on this Earth i would even consider paying a fine for using an ecig, based on the current law. No way.
She seems to think she has to prove her 'innocence' by proving she was using an ecig...that's not how the law works folks, the state has the burden to prove guilt, the accused *never* has to prove innocence.
So, if some jobsworth decides to try a little revenue raising off your back, by issuing you fines for 'smoking' an ecig (!), be confident that under the *current law*, you have committed NO crime, and there are NO fines you have to pay.
In fact, not too many people know that under our laws, it's actually illegal in itself to issue demands for money as a 'fine', without due process (going to court), so tell them where to stick it.
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Post by spikeychops on Jul 22, 2011 18:44:06 GMT
It would be an 'over 18's' book if i did!  (did i mention i once had to install a FAX machine in a brothel?!) |
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