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Post by sellaman on Jul 23, 2011 22:42:47 GMT
Could someone tell me where I can get flavored ejuices that don't have flavor boosters , sweeteners and things like that in them?
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Post by sellaman on Jul 17, 2011 21:36:10 GMT
I think i need juices with just nic and natural flavourings,no alcohol or other stuff. Have you found that ethyl alcohol can cause some bad reactions?
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Post by sellaman on Jul 17, 2011 18:19:22 GMT
I would look at the carrier used in the flavours. You might be having a reaction to ethyl alcohol it is used in a lot of flavours and to thin out some e-liquids. Do you mean to say that some flavoured e-liquids don't use ethyl alcohol?
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Post by sellaman on Jul 17, 2011 15:37:55 GMT
As you mentioned it can take a while before you begin to feel the onset of the unpleasant effects, That's only because I had the flavors heavily diluted. What I'm doing now is trying PG/VG unflavored ratios to find the best ratio for me. So far it seems that if it has more VG in it then I get a less troublesome vape. For that reason, I'm happy that Vaporite's ejuices have almost 100% VG in them.
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Post by sellaman on Jul 17, 2011 2:25:20 GMT
Please dont feel alone Sellaman Thanks because it's so frustrating to think I was the only one with flavoring problems. Can you give me the link to that thread please? Yes, I proved it beyond doubt too. It's just that other people think I'm strange to be allergic to flavorings. Yes, the taste of unflavored ejuice is disgusting. Are you using nicotine in your unflavored PG or VG that you are vaping? Have you tried Organic flavorings at Vaporite or any other vendor?
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Post by sellaman on Jul 17, 2011 0:55:30 GMT
I'm still curious as to exactly which flavours you have; I'm not just being nosy - if they were all tobaccos it could be worth you trying fruit types instead as these would be compounded with very different ingredients. I have Tobacco, Tuiti Fruit, Spearmint, Cola, and Coffee, all of which make my head spin. Yes, I have high hope for Vaporite's ejuices. If they fail , I will give up. Thanks , I'll ask James to look at this thread and ask him for help.
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Post by sellaman on Jul 16, 2011 18:15:35 GMT
Joh...I'm from Australia. What is TW?
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Post by sellaman on Jul 16, 2011 5:59:33 GMT
This effect you have noticed does sound very unusual, Sellaman. While I'd not be surprised if very occasionally someone might get a reaction to a particular component in a flavouring it seems a bit strange that ALL the ones you have tried have caused such a noticeable reaction for you. Are they tobacco types or fruit or whatever? Firstly I have to say that this thread is only new so not many people have had a chance to read it. I wanted to know from other vapors if flavored juices disagreed with them and how they managed to overcome their problem. This is a reply from someone else that has similar problems to me and how he fixed the problem. So you see , I'm not the only one that has experienced a problem with flavors! And here's someone else with the same problem as mine. Well, I have only had a chance to try one vendors juices and Vaporite's will be my second. I have tried diluting my flavored doublers and , YES, it's better diluted but still not good enough. I can vape diluted flavored Juices for all morning but by afternoon , I'm feeling sick. I was told to get juices off Vaporite by a long time and experienced vaporer , so that is what I did. If Vaporite flavored juices are good for me then I will have no problems.
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Post by sellaman on Jul 15, 2011 23:00:57 GMT
You could try Menthol crystals as an alternative flavouring, are F'arts, The Perfumer's Apprentice flavourings available in Oz? Thanks...and yes, I'm looking for a completely different alternative to the usual flavoring chemicals. I just hope that the flavored juices I ordered fro Vaporite has a totally different chemical make up in their flavorings. I will email The Perfumer's Apprentice and F'arts to see if they have a totally different chemical make up in their flavorings to the usual flavorings. At Flavor Art it says; Differences between natural and synthetic flavoringsNatural and synthetic flavors (often called natural identical) are defined for the consumer in the Code of Federal Regulations. A key line from this definition is the following: " a natural flavor is the essential oil, oleoresin, essence or extractive, protein hydrolysate, distillate, or any product of roasting, heating or enzymolysis, which contains the flavoring constituents derived from a spice, fruit or fruit juice, vegetable or vegetable juice, edible yeast, herb, bark, bud, root, leaf or similar plant material, meat, seafood, poultry, eggs, dairy products, or fermentation products thereof, whose significant function in food is flavoring rather than nutritional." Synthetic flavors are those that are made from components that do not meet this definition. But then it goes on to say;The flavourings we develop and manufacture are considered safe for FOOD use only, as it is intended that they enter the body via the digestive system and not the lungs. Digestion involves acid breakdown, enzyme attack, kidney and liver processing. Inhaling flavourings, as a vapour, results in the chemicals (contained within these) entering directly into the blood stream where these essential biological processes are effectively by-passed. Whilst vaping can be compared to smelling scents in the open air; consumption of food flavours through inhalation has not yet been scientifically tested or evaluated for human safety. So just as well I ordered from Vaporite because they sort of guarantee their juices.
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Post by sellaman on Jul 15, 2011 21:38:11 GMT
I get a bad reaction to flavored juices! I have tried 6 flavors so far with 0 Nicotine. I have 2 Juice Whore flavorings, 2 home made flavorings made by my vendor, and 2 Chinese flavors. ( I don't know if it's Dekang)
I have tried vaping unflavored 60/40 PG,VG 0 nic and that has been the best so far. I can't sense any bad reaction. But any of the 3 brands of flavoring I have, sends me into a head spin.
I have a feeling that when I get my organic flavored juices from Vaporite that my head won't spin , even if it has nicotine in it. It's only a guess. I expect to get my juices from Vaporite in about a week and then I'll know if organic juices and flavorings are better for me.
Has anyone else had similar reactions to flavorings?
Are there any other ways to flavor juices besides the ways that my other 6 juices were flavored? I know organic juice flavors are probably different in their chemical make up. That's why I have ordered some.
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Post by sellaman on Jul 14, 2011 19:02:55 GMT
Is there a 2.0 ohm cartomizer that fits onto a Joye eGo 650 battery? I use Boge 2.3 ohm cartomizers for my Joye eGo 650 battery but was wondering if there was a 2.0 ohm one around that would work properly on it.
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Post by sellaman on Jul 13, 2011 1:28:34 GMT
Sellaman, to put your mind at rest, I've been vaping for almost 3 years & had no ill effects from getting juice on my hands. Thanks....I need reassurances ....and it does put my mind to rest.
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Post by sellaman on Jul 12, 2011 5:40:12 GMT
glycol/glycerine on hands really isn't pleasant... I got some on my hands today.........I couldn't get the juice flavor off my hand even after washing with soap and water. It was a particularity bad tasting flavor too.
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Post by sellaman on Jul 12, 2011 0:18:19 GMT
What flavourings are you using Sellaman? Are you mixing your own or buying ready made? I am using flavors that I got from an Australian supplier. I suspect that his flavors have expired past their 'use by date' and that they are all real bad. I just tried one of his now and it tasted like burnt plastic!....yuk.....but the rest of the flavors he sold me were not too bad except for a 'Cola" one which was so sickening that I'll never use it again. Anyhow when I get my organic juices from Vaporite soon, I'll know that the juices are coming from a reputable supplier.
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Post by sellaman on Jul 11, 2011 20:42:11 GMT
With regards you getting spaced out... sounds like a wee nicotine overdose...have you tried diluting a bit? Jo, I have not used nicotine at all yet. I am actually hoping that when I get my nic flavored juices in 10 days time that the nic will be helpful. When I first started vaping 2 weeks ago, I would have about 10 puffs a day and then get sick. I found the flavoring made me sick , so I vaped unflavored PG/VG. It was a lot better vaping unflavored PG/VG juice and then I started to vape flavored juices again ,about 5 days ago and have not had any bad reaction except I can only vape a tiny little bit , otherwise I get sick. I am really hoping that with a bit of nicotine in the juice, that it will make my vaping less sickening. I think no matter what, I'll have to slowly get used to vaping.
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