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They are surprisingly good Thankyou dakgm, much better than the prefilled ones, it didn't take me too long to master filling them. I've now reached the point where I need to either order more cartomisers or move on to a starter kit, I think I'm going to get both so I can use the boges at work (when I get the chance) and use maybe an evod starter kit at home.
Thanks for your help, it certainly got me off to a good start

In my job I see up to 15 people a day for assessment in a fairly small room, since quitting ciggies the room seems to reek when a smoker comes in, especially if they've just had a fag outside. One of the assessment questions is about smoking and I have to resist the urge to tick the box without asking the question...it seems just a little too patronizing plus I figure they could have just been standing near a smoker, but if they say no then I do emphasise the risks of telling porkies, just in case. I had an embarrassing moment when a colleague walked by and without thinking I said ' I didn't know you smoked!' She looked a bit surprised and asked me how I knew...oops. We then had a nice little chat about the benefits of vaping, hopefully another convert before too long methinks..

At that moment I'm just using boges on a skycig battery whilst deciding what to start with and it's payday on Friday ...

On the subject of CE clearomisers I must admit I'm confused by the various models, so far I've seen CE4, 4+, 5, 5+ and recently a CE8. I know the CE4 has a wick as you can see it in the pics but after that I'm lost as to what the differences are. I was considering having a go with one as they are a cheap introduction if bought from a reputable vendor but which one to try?? Or maybe just buy an evod instead..

Not going to bother shakin em, I'll vape and then jump up n down...that'll do it..

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As a new member to this forum who has recently been massively helped by a lot of people here I beseech you to think beyond what appear to be petty rules and restrictions proboards impose and focus on the good that you do every time a new member says 'hi ..can you help me'. Without that help many would probably return to smoking, but instead they move on to a reliable alternative. You do that for people, you welcome them, congratulate them on every cigarette they don't smoke and answer every silly question. Please don't let that change for the sake of a few pathetic rules that the moderators cannot change..