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Post by danbean on Aug 7, 2011 19:23:26 GMT
Oh Lordy! Having just placed my order for hop extract as a bittering agent, I have just discovered that hop extract is a mild hallucinogen. Now I am wishing I had done my homework.
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Post by danbean on Aug 7, 2011 19:14:19 GMT
Congratulations, Rawveg, you are the first person in the world (apart from me) to have tested the Atty Hat! I take my er... hat off to you, sir.
If you can find a way to improve it further, I will be all ears. At the moment its a bit crude - if there are any origami experts out there....
Dan
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Post by danbean on Aug 7, 2011 14:31:33 GMT
No probs Lordy- please, someone try it and give me feedback...I'm starting to think it's only me that cares!
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Post by danbean on Aug 7, 2011 14:12:59 GMT
They say stainless steel ones are better- have ordered some of these from here already but not received yet- probably the wiser option in long term if you want to play on the safe side. here's the link: I have deleted the link for this site after having just received the wrong thing- these are much too course and are preshaped - go with Tim's recommendation at www.themeshcompany.com and try the 100 gauge - looks better- he's tried and tested this; sorry for any inconvenience caused. Dan
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Post by danbean on Aug 7, 2011 14:10:39 GMT
I got mine from a corner shop tobacconist (not many of these left I know) but Ive seen them online - will try to dig out link for you if you like
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Post by danbean on Aug 7, 2011 14:05:48 GMT
Sure- based only on my personal experience (no one has yet taken up my offer to test it!) the hat keeps working and working- I've been using the same one for a month now with no negative change in appearance or effectiveness. I have washed it a couple of times, but I don't know if that was necessary- just made me feel better.
As for atty life- again this is only an estimate based on what I've seen over using it for a month- I get no burnt taste, which I got before with carts / dripping without hat. I rotate atties anyway, and do a quick dry burn and rinse at least every fortnight. I've been using 3 regular 510 atties from LF and have not burnt any of these out since I started. keeping the atty wet is a tried and tested way to extend atty life - this method keeps the mesh and coil pretty much saturated the whole time, so it seems logical to suggest that it will keep things running smoothly for longer.
A major advantage with this addition is that you dont have to fiddle with filling leaky carts and likewise avoid the misery of reduced mouth flavour that carts invariably produce. It is essentially a way of maxing mouth flavour and the other benefits of dripping but without the other tedious aspects of dripping that often put people off.
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Post by danbean on Aug 7, 2011 10:46:37 GMT
Hi Lilac- I can't see that it wouldn't work with a 901 - they are (as far as I understand) almost the same as the 501 apart from the connection/threading. As long as you have room in the atty chamber for the wire gauze over the bridge, and can still attach a drip tip or open cart case without it touching/squashing the gauze hat then it should work fine.
Update- I have recommended dripping in small amounts at first with this method (3 drips) but I have since discovered that after you have broken the gauze in, you can fill with a huge amount of liquid without flooding or airflow issues (even with a fairly high PG mix). I think this is because the gauze soaks up excess liquid that would otherwise run down into the internal part of the atty.
Just be careful when detaching the "hat" that you don't pull the bridge up too far - the hat should be loose enough to detach easily though tight enough that it stays snugly in place around the bridge.
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Post by danbean on Aug 6, 2011 23:22:10 GMT
I posted this on a foreign forum recently but would like my own compatriates to benefit from it, too. This method has turned around my 510 vaping experience and is now my only set up. I now get better mouth flavour, much longer vaping time and dripping isn't half as tedious as is was before...simple but effective! Anyway here are the instructions and video if anyone's interested....if not, I'll just enjoy the benefits of this little tip in the privacy of my attic, and no one need ever know!
You just need a either a drip tip or a simple 510 cartridge case with inner case removed (the lip should fit about 2mm into atty chamber) You will also need two pipe screen filters* (from most tobacconists).
1. Double up two pipe screen filters 2. Cut to centre 3. Form a cone and tighten/shape to fit your atty 4. Cut the top off the cone to create a small hole for airflow 5. Carefully drop Atty Hat into your 510 atty chamber directly over the mesh of the bridge and push/pinch with tweezers to a snug position so bridge is surrounded. (you should be able to see it peeking out of the small hole in your filter hat) 6. Drip three drops at first to break in, replace cart and vape!
Enjoy!
* some have suggested using stainless steel screens, though I have had no problems with the brass ones, as long as you leave them inside your atty and dont expose to light when wet.
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Post by danbean on Aug 6, 2011 21:54:34 GMT
Cheers Grizwald- I've tried the LF sweetener which is pretty decent as you say, though I was hoping to avoid the high price - their base is sucralose too; I was hoping to find some that's undiluted and at a bulk (cheaper) price. Can't see any wholesalers that sell it yet, that's all. Still looking though....
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Post by danbean on Aug 6, 2011 16:55:33 GMT
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Post by danbean on Aug 6, 2011 16:48:35 GMT
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Post by danbean on Aug 6, 2011 16:29:14 GMT
cool- thanks. Anyone tried quinine or extract of citrus peel/hop extract for bitterness? I'm thinking these would work if water based.
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Post by danbean on Aug 6, 2011 15:16:37 GMT
Hi- was wondering if anyone knew of a good bittering agent that could be used to balance flavours - I have tried Bitter Wizard from FA but didn't get much in terms of bitterness.
I know that increasing PG ratio can also lift bitterness but I want to find another additive that would be more effective for use with VG.
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Post by danbean on Aug 6, 2011 12:54:24 GMT
Hi and thanks for that- So far I 've been using Ecigsoutlet for Hangsen concentrates though its unlikely they would divulge their bulk source - also they only sell in very small quantities- no bulk. Ive tried so many other tobacco flavours though the new Hangsen (old Dekang recipe I think) is the only one I really really like. Loranns are good for the fruity flavours etc and PA are also great and strong too, but the Hangsen rule as far as realism is concerned. I can see lots of suppliers selling these liquids as "no nic flavouring" but nothing for concentrated flavourings.
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Post by danbean on Aug 5, 2011 23:31:36 GMT
Hi- I've been searching for a few days now for flavour concentrates, (rather than zero nic juices) of Hangsen flavours, notably the "Turkish Blended" and "Tobacco" flavours. I can get these from UK but they are pricey.
Can anyone recommend a Chinese supplier of high strength flavour concentrates? All AliBaba ads list no-nic concentrates alongside regular e-liquids- or do I just have to make do with zero nicotine liquids?
Thanks
Dan
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