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Thanks for all the replies. You lot have been very helpful yet again!

I wish I'd know that about tank systems when I ordered my starter kit (and even when I ordered my a bunch of spare atties)! My minimal research (I had thought it fairly comprehensive - A week of being here and on ECF plus watching VTTV has taught me how wrong I was!) had lead me to belief that direct dripping gave the best flavour and with the tank, every vape was like it had been direct dripped. I guess I was either mislead by what I read/watched on youtube or possibly, just as likely, misinterpreted it.

I received a three pack of Mega Dual Coil Cartomisers today and although I have only filled one I have been highly impressed. I filled it with the the 11mg Golden Virginia that I have found is great for chain vaping and have really noticed an increase in the richness of the flavour as well as a better throat hit.

I think I'm going to order two or three different tobacco flavours and a couple of other strong flavours from a different supplier and some standard size DCCs. I'll keep the mega sized ones for what ever becomes my stock chain vape flavour in the long run, and use the smaller ones for trying new flavours. I'll put the fruit flavours to one side for a few weeks and then try them again (I didn't dislike either, just found them disappointing).

On the return of senses front, I am already noting some improvements. I had the three most flavourful pints of Bathams I can remember in years this evening and the room I am currently sitting in is definitely starting to smell (the only room in the house anyone has smoked in for several years). There are big pros and cons to the time of year I've started to vape, as whilst being able to sit inside the pub all night when it is cold is a big advantage, not being able to keep the window fully open 24 hours a day so the smell dissipates is not so good!

I've already told my mother that my xmas list is likely to be made up of 90% vaping supplies and she is chuffed: a) That I am doing something far less harmful than smoking; and b) That I don't smell nearly as bad as I did a week ago! I never really believed that stuff about smokers smelling bad and being around smokers making non-smokers smell bad but for the first time in my life I am beginning to observe some evidence for it.

This is interesting, thank you.

When I ordered my starter kit, I deliberately ordered juice that was advertised as tasting like my regular brand of tobacco (Golden Virginia). It wasn't spot on but was close enough. Within days though I found myself wanting to try other flavours and so ordered a 5 pack of 5 ml bottles from a well known supplier. They arrived today.

I have tried 3 of them so far. Two, the apple and watermelon have been very disappointing. Whilst I get a hint of the flavour, it is minimal. The spearmint however, I am loving!

There are several possible explanations for this, and I have no idea which, if any, is true.

1) This particular well known supplier's flavours aren't great and I would get a better experience with another supplier. (This doesn't explain why the spearmint is so good though and I can't comment on the two I haven't tried)

2) I'm using the Ego-T system and have only got one good atty, so although I have used a brand new tank for each flavour, the fact they have gone though an atty that has had Golden Virginia going through it for several days may have "poisoned the well". Certainly, both Watermelon and Apple as more subtle flavour normally than either tabacco or mint, so it could well be that it is simply risidual juice and it's residue in the atty that is masking the flavour of the subtler ones.

3) Reading your post does make me wonder if this isn't the most likely one: My taste and olfactory senses have been so dulled by nearly 20 years of smoking 40+ roll ups/day that it is unreasonable for me to expect to be able to appreciate anything but the strongest of flavours in the next few weeks.

The more I think about it, the more a combination of reasons 2 and 3 seems to be the most likely explanation. I think I may follow you tip and put my apple and watermelon flavours to one side of a few weeks and then try them anew.

This spearmint is awesome though and I may have to order more soon. I also very much want to try this RV4 that loads of people seem to love. But whoever I buy my next sampler pack from, I think in the short term, I need to be trying strong, dominant flavours, not subtle ones...


Hope this is considered an adjunct to the thread, rather than a derail. I had considered starting a new thread to mention this anyway but it seemed to follow on neatly here...

Thanks for the info guys.

So I guess it's really just pot luck as to the life span then and user action has little effect. Fortunately I'll have plenty of spares as of tomorrow (unless the Royal Mail are playing silly buggers as they are sometimes know to do ).

I've definitely found though that resting it horizontally instead of standing it on it's end seams to produce a better vape though. It makes me wonder if there is a market out there for PV desk stands. I envisage a small block of polished wood with curved wire rising from it that you could rest your PV on.

If I had the skills I'd have a go at making one for my self; I imagine that any that did become commercially available I would baulk at the price lol. Besides, I've found that between the numbers and function keys seems to work quite nicely whilst I'm sat at my keyboard.

I'll keep experimenting. Thanks again guys!

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Nicotine is colourless. It is the tar in tobacco that causes the colouring on teeth and fingers. Even though is is often referred to as "nicotine stains".
The flavourings added my well have the effect of staining the teeth though of course whether they do or not will vary from flavour to flavour and manufacturer to manufacturer.

Oct 10, 2011 17:21:04 GMT Jemima said:

Lol thanks for getting back to me then Fuzzy

I just wanted to check so I didn't overdoes on it, is it possible to use to much if you also use a toothwhitening toothpaste ?

I don't know if it is as effective as using pure bi-carb powder but there are bi-carbonate of soda based toothpastes on the market. I believe Arm and Hammer have one.

I have found personally, that in the few days I have been vaping, the discolouration of my teeth has decreased and the discolouration of my fingers is almost completely gone already


I have been using Clinomyn smokers toothpaste for several years now. This thread has caused me to wonder whether I should change to a different brand when my current tube runs out...