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Hopefully someone can clarify or direct me to the answer for a question I have.

Regarding Mods and atty's , that we already own.Are we still going to be able to use mods come the TPD implementation as they DON'T give a consistent dose and atty's because they are not leak free ?

I ask this because , if the TPD says that existing as well as new products have to abide by these rules we will be right royally F**KED , as NO-ONE has these.

As far as the Tobacco industry making these kinds of products , or big Pharma for that matter , I don't think they will even bother.I mean , why would they spend 10's of millions of £'s making and getting them passed for sale with such a minimal return , be it hardware or juice.The market isn't big enough for them to warrant the outlay , without making them SO expensive that they won't be a viable alternative to smoking.Plus , both Big T already have the manufacture of cigarettes going , so why stop and Big P have the drugs for the diseases they cause.

I see this whole TPD being a triangle.Smoking needs to exist for the Pharma to sell expensive drugs ( 2 lots of sales , with tobacco and drugs ) , both of which give the government of which ever country much needed ( so the politicians say ) revenue.So the government won't ban smoking , because they get 2 revenue streams from Big T and Big P , not forgetting the "Donations" these two groups also give to the government.

As many people have said , it's NEVER been about public health or safety , it's about the money and how quickly they can take it out of our hands.


Andy

After my latest E-Liquid purchase , I need to accelerate this , like maybe this weekend.

So , what I'm looking for again is a regulated mod , at about 50 watts ( I can't see me needing more , but never say never ) , uses 18650 batteries that can easily be changed and reliable.

NO , Greg , you CAN'T mention the Clouper Mini again , lol



Andy

Well , all it is , is a V2 that's been cut and ground down enough for 22mm atty's to fit.

So , here it is :-




I've been waiting far to long for Innokin to realise the potential of this ( a V3 version ) and I've seen other pics of people chopping theirs so I bought a second hand one from someone on UKV.I know it's messy , I'm a plumber , I do practical , not necessarily pretty , hopefully next time .


Andy

As the title suggests really. I'm after a VTR V2 so I can give it a chop to fit 22mm attys on it.

I want one of these as I can't seem to find something else to fit my profile.

Thanks.

Andy

After a bit of investigation of the VTR last night , OK I mean , I took off the top plate off last night to have a look.I've found the that making a replacement to difficult to make.I didn't realise that the top plate also included the outside screen . When I put a 22mm tank on the rest of the mod it fitted perfectly.This has lead me to wonder if the VTR was originally supposed to take a 22mm atty and it was to difficult to manufacture the top plate , as the screw holes ( on the top ) were to close to the end of the top plate , so it was amended to only take a 19mm atty.If the top screw holes were closer to the adjustment wheel the plate could have been a lot easier to make it take a 22mm or above atty.
I know and I've seen people take off the ring and part of the top plate to allow a 22mm atty to fit and I may try and get a second hand one to do this with.I'm just very surprised that this form factor has been left in the dark as far as being updated for the most popular atty size , especially in a VV/VW mod.There are mech mods with this form factor , and ONE mod VV/VW ( The Helix ) . Having said that , the problem that I've seen with the likes of the Gizmo just as an example , is the more enclosed format of the atty , means if it gets stuck on the 510 connection ( which I seem to do to often ) it's VERY difficult to get out , it's still a lovely looking mod though.The Stig Helix is a beautiful mod , don't get me wrong , it's just the price is way to high for me , as they are high end mods in small numbers.

Here's still looking.


Andy

I don't think I made it clear enough ( definitely my fault there ) that I wanted to use my 18650 batteries that I have and being able just to swap out one battery for another.



Andy