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Post by csayce on Nov 8, 2014 9:46:08 GMT
Oh and to add to my rant where's your proof ryuzaki911 that indeed it was only the silicone that was at fault?
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Post by csayce on Nov 8, 2014 9:26:13 GMT
look ryuzaki911 are you really just a wound up bag of tension that you feel the need to vent like this I've not ignored you I've simply not seen your posts you are just one small person in the large vaping community I don't know every one or even have time too reply to every single person who might leave a comment I passed along information that was passed along to me I spread the warning that was given to me look at this way if you had a make of car that had a recall because of a fault that had the potential to fail and possibly cause you the family or others around injury you would kick and scream if you'd not been warned well it's the same with this device if it had the possible potential to do the same hurt you a family member or those around you you'd like to know.
Just because you say it's the silicone melting does not mean that was the fault that had been picked up by LF so wind your neck in stfu I'm not interested in hearing from you I simply spread a warning of a possible fault so that others we in the loop and had the choice to either use the device or not as a forum community member your not really part of the community if all your doing is shouting at others not to pass along a warning which could have possibly stopped injury and adding fuel to the haters who want to ban e-cigs.
If your so blinded by your rage I suggest a warm cup of tea and your favourate vape and chill out until the next warning that comes along then you can jump out of your seat again waving your rolled up paper in the air shout here I am every body listen to me I know every thing the problem is............
I wish you all the very best ryuzaki911 have a good weekend and please try to chill out.
Happy vaping and.... Vape strong.
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Post by csayce on Nov 8, 2014 2:20:36 GMT
Please excuse the lack of punctuation grammar and the manny spelling mistakes I'm very dyslexic and when I type some thing as long as I did it really shows please let it slide thank you. Ware your dyslexia with pride (or FU if you don't like it attitude) I do and thanks for keeping us all in the loop. Thank you VapingBad it's hard too ware it with pride when there are so many idiots around who gain sexual satisfaction in putting ppl down because of their grasp with the grammar punctuiton or any spelling mistakes that some times I find it just to much to even join in in a thread because I know these ppl are part of the thread and will take great pride in berating my post truth be told I think this is the most I've ever said in a thread where I've not been put down because of my dyslexia. but I'll not go on about that here as this thread has nothing to do with my dyslexia but I do thank you for your support. cheers VapingBad.
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Post by csayce on Nov 8, 2014 1:33:15 GMT
Please excuse the lack of punctuation grammar and the manny spelling mistakes I'm very dyslexic and when I type some thing as long as I did it really shows please let it slide thank you.
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Post by csayce on Nov 8, 2014 1:23:35 GMT
From: CSayce Date: 2014-11-07 06:38 To: david@pioneer4you.com Subject: IPV3 recall Hello I'm a bit concerned I've been contact by the reseller who sold me the IPV3 stating there was a recall because of dangerous wiring I've looked around the web and I'm unable at this time to find any more info on this "recall" please would you help clear this up has there been a recall issued should I be concerned about using the device your company designed and sells? Thanking you. CSayce.
On 7 Nov 2014, at 17:00, "david@pioneer4you.com" <david@pioneer4you.com> wrote:
Hi CSayce,
We didn't recall ipv3, enjoy your vaping.
Have a nice weekend!
Best regards, David Lau Tel: +86 15013661180 Skype: david.pioneer4you WeChat: David_Lau1986 Company: Shenzhen Green Leaf Technology Co.,Ltd
From: CSayce Date: 2014-11-08 01:02 To: david@pioneer4you.com Subject: Re: IPV3 recall Thank you for the reply I've since found out it is the vendors decision to recall the product. Do you have any info on the suspect fault please?
CSayce.
On 7 Nov 2014, at 17:13, "david@pioneer4you.com" <david@pioneer4you.com> wrote:
You are welcome, we don't have any info on the suspect fault of ipv3.
Best regards, David Lau Tel: +86 15013661180 Skype: david.pioneer4you WeChat: David_Lau1986 Company: Shenzhen Green Leaf Technology Co.,Ltd
From: CSayce Date: 2014-11-08 01:17 To: david@pioneer4you.com Subject: Re: IPV3 recall Ok can you confirm that if I don't return the IPV3 back to my supplier and then the IPV3 should suffer from this suspect fault that pioneer4u will honour the warranty and replace/fix my IPV3 or fully refund my money. Also is there any truth that pioneer4u is soon to release a product based on the IPV3 an upgrade such as the named IPV3 plus?
CSayce.
On 7 Nov 2014, at 17:20, "david@pioneer4you.com" <david@pioneer4you.com> wrote:
there is no news about a ipv3 plus or anything, you will see it if we will release something new.
Best regards, David Lau Tel: +86 15013661180 Skype: david.pioneer4you WeChat: David_Lau1986 Company: Shenzhen Green Leaf Technology Co.,Ltd
From: CSayce Date: 2014-11-08 01:22 To: david@pioneer4you.com Subject: Re: IPV3 recall Thank you for the reply but what of the warranty and my question I'm concerned about my device and the money I could stand too loose if it does go faulty because of this suspect fault please help to clear this concern.
Thank you.
CSayce.
On 7 Nov 2014, at 17:32, "david@pioneer4you.com" <david@pioneer4you.com> wrote:
there are 6 months warranty for ipv3, you can contact ASMODUS for warranty if there are issued of your device, you have a warranty card, right?
Best regards, David Lau Tel: +86 15013661180 Skype: david.pioneer4you WeChat: David_Lau1986 Company: Shenzhen Green Leaf Technology Co.,Ltd
From: CSayce Date: 2014-11-08 01:24 To: david@pioneer4you.com Subject: Re: IPV3 recall
Again thank you for your reply yes I have a warranty card I have every thing that came in the box can you tell me is there a way to prove that the device I bought is genuine or not as there have been comments made that the devices sold by this particular vendor maybe possible fake?
CSayce
There was no reply to this last message there have been messages left on the pioneer4you Facebook page which they have not replied too even seems as though messages or comments have been deleted?
I have also put together a sort of story board of the IPV3 and its arrival to the market place some fact some speculation I will point out fact and also the speculations clearly this is my own beliefs I leave it up to you to decide and this is very condensed.
First off we know FACT: that P4u missed their predicted release date for the IPV3 to hit the market. FACT: We were given a rough estimate of a couple of weeks until the units would be shipped. Then we were told FACT: it was a holiday and and that there would be another short delay in shipping. Next FACT: we were told that P4u had been let down with the boxes they were supplied with (here's where things get a bit mixed up I read a couple of different stories). 1) the supplier of the boxes could not supply enough boxes. 2) that the boxes supplied did not reach the demands of P4u. I don't know which one if not both are true. Ok FACT: then the release date got put back again for a couple of weeks. Then there was a release that the IPV3 had a fault which had been picked up by a vaper pre-release and had to be investigated. FACT: no information on what this fault was and we were told that there would be another delay. FACT: the IPV3 in the meantime had its release specs updated too 100w then on finally hitting the market 150w with a predicted 200w firmware update to be released too.
Ok well this is the best I can do I've looked around the net for more info better info but a lot of it has disappeared very quickly. Ok now onto my speculation.
As we know there was a great deal of frustration due to the IPV3 and its delay in reaching the market. I do have a belief that there might have been some sort of problem with the boxes but I don't think it has to do with delivery or that the boxes failed to reach the mounting high standards that P4u have. I personally believe it had some thing to do with the touch sensor and the fact that the IPV3 was being left behind because of the delays in shipping that because P4u could not get the touch sensor to work as it should they released the tales about the boxes. To give them more time to get the rest of the box to work. This is why if the box was not meant to have a touch sensor then P4u would not have wasted money and time firstly cutting the hole in the box then filling it with the touch disc that's just money and time out the door. Next we were told that the same USB charging set up would be used as the IPV2 but when we got the IPV3 we find that this is not the case we now need to buy a separate charger (don't get me started on how we should have got the charger for free considering the price paid) to charge the batteries if we choose to do so in the IPV3. Again I believe this is another failing and time wasted by P4u they were not able to get the USB port to work for charging so they threw in a separate charging port just so they could get the devices out of the door and onto the shelves. In the hurry to get the devices out the door I believe that P4u's QC fell down instead of putting their hands up and just saying.
Hay gang were sorry we've tried to be innovative and give you these things but we were unable to get them working 100% so we are going to be take a bit longer to release the device as a bonus the device will come as a 150w unit with possible firmware upgrades to come we are going to get the units to you as quickly as we can but we'll not drop our high standards just stick with us and also as an extra bonus for those that pre-ordered and have remained with us you will get a free charger for doing so.
Thank you.
Which would have been much better than the soup we got well I can't say for 100% there is a fault but I can say 100% I won't be buying from pioneer4you again. My unit will be collected next week I've already been fully reimbursed via PayPal I applaud Liberty Flights for taking the action they have if there is a threat to life, injury or surroundings due to a suspected fault with a vaping device then the product MUST be recalled NOW not latter after the FACT.
DONT GIVE THE HATERS FUEL TO BAN VAPING.
As always what I have said here (inc the questions in the email conversation with the pioneer4you rep) are my own thoughts and speculation along with my own experience when on the pre-order list for the pioneer4you IPV3 order list via RedJuice.com.
I leave it up to you to make of this what you will. The choice as always is yours.
I will say no more on the matter.
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Post by csayce on Nov 7, 2014 23:13:31 GMT
Thank you all for the welcoming I've been talking to a rep from P4u and I'll compile what was said and leave it up to you to make of it what you will give me a bit to do this as I've just woken up and need to take my meds and make myself a warm drink.
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Post by csayce on Nov 7, 2014 15:34:05 GMT
I should add that no one here has tried to throw abuse at me it has been ppl on other forums I've been very warmly welcomed here and I thank you. (y)
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Post by csayce on Nov 7, 2014 15:32:19 GMT
Well thank you to those of you that can see I've not tried to scaremonger ive only passed on the info that has been passed along to me from Liberty flights I've just tried to warn my friends and other ppl who are using this device I don't want this device to possibly cause damage or injury it would just add fuel for those that seek to get an e-cig vaping ban or tighter regulations imposed. I'm very annoyed at those ppl that seem too think that just because "they" have had no fault with there's that all other IPV3's are fine and this is scaremongering and as such it is fine to abuse myself for spreading the info. I've plenty of other devices too use whilst this one is rtn'd "I'm ok jack" is not in my nature unlike some I just want us all to enjoy our vaping experience. *steps down of soap box* mini rant over. Carry on vaping and.... Vape strong.
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Post by csayce on Nov 6, 2014 19:27:51 GMT
Welcome on board csayce and thanks for posting the details. Thank you just trying my best to make sure no one gets hurt. ????
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Post by csayce on Nov 6, 2014 19:26:55 GMT
Ive been trying to let ppl know about this but there's a troll who's been trying to to put me down for trying to warn ppl about the fault the trolls nic is MrScaryZ a complete ass hat who won't give in it seems well I have tried my best to let others know what I've been told.
The decision to carry on using it or not is yours.
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Post by csayce on Nov 6, 2014 19:24:25 GMT
Hello here's a copy of the email I recieved from Liberty Flights today as well I got a phone call to arrange pick up of the IPV3.
Dear CSayce ,
We are writing to urgently inform you that we have discovered a potential safety hazard involving the iPV 3 you have purchased recently. We have seen more than one example of the internal battery terminals getting hot which we believe in some of the products is causing the plastic casing that houses the chipset and wiring to melt. The melting is occurring next to the battery terminals (gold coloured parts that touch the end of the batteries) which we believe could represent a serious hazard if left unchecked. As such we are recalling this product from the market as it no longer meets with the high standard of safety we demand from all our products.
Please can you return the product to us immediately to avoid any potential problems and we will refund with the full cost of the product, including delivery both ways. Please find attached our returns procedure and form.
Ignoring this issue could result in damaging your device or worse yet cause personal injury.
We would like to apologise for any inconvenience that this recall may have caused. As well as the full refund of your product and delivery, an extra £15 store credit will also be added to your account on receipt of the item as a way of saying sorry.
We would like to reassure you that Liberty Flights is committed to safety and accountability for all of our products is of paramount importance to us.
Please reply to this email as soon as you get it to confirm receipt and let us know that you are sending back the item to us.
To raise any questions or concerns, please do give our support team a call on 0345 257 9008.
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