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Post by miltiades on Dec 13, 2014 10:09:30 GMT
Thanks igual , for the % i will try a mix with higher percentage to see what happens. I will steep lids open on the basement where is no children zone and see what happens |
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Post by miltiades on Dec 13, 2014 9:43:05 GMT
Good Morning. i'm using apple from FA , and the other flavors are from a company called AtmosLab (local Greek flavors producer). The percentages i'm using are from the producer(in case of Atmos) and a bit more , for example 2% i've made 3% in a test to check and FA is 3% and 4% i'm using. In general the aroma of the concentrates are there along with the taste , though the problem is the chemical aftertaste that ruins everything. I tend to agree with yours and Lairey's recommendation for more steeping and also i will try to create a recipe with higher percentage but i doubt that this nasty chemical smell and taste will disappear only by adding more % to the mixture. Ripshod , you will have to wait a bit as you see here we are at the A right now , to reach Omega we have a long way to travel  I would be happy to share a recipe i will like for myself first and i tend to be very picky lately after trying some liquids from Grizwald56 |
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Post by miltiades on Dec 12, 2014 22:13:15 GMT
The nic base is PG the one , and 50-50% the second , though i've used it with concentrate and it's fine. I bought another base to verify that , so it's not the problem. The same with VG i bought two different bases
to minimize the risk of stacking to a bad quality batch.
The recipe is calculated via Ejuice me Up.
For Apple flavor base: 50-50% pg/vg here , Nicotine strength 20mg , target 6 mg. Flavor 3% as the production company says.
Nicotine base 9 ml pg/vg (30%)
PG 9.6 ml (32%)
VG 10.5 ml (35%)
Flavor 0.9 ml (3%)
All the amounts are measured with an electronic scale i've found in offer recently.
The other recipes are about the same , flavors mixed from 2% for the strongest and 4% for weakest.
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Post by miltiades on Dec 12, 2014 22:00:09 GMT
Hi guys. as i've read that my initial recipe contains ingredients that are difficult. i've decided to use some seemingly more easy on the start for tests. So my flavors are : apple , cinnamon , mastic(a local ingredient very strong) and lemon The rice pudding recipe i leave for the time being in my mind only after i learn the process better and feel confident to try with creams , etc. Perpetua. i thought of that reading various posts. Though the taste from day 1 to day 5 is exactly a copy of previous day. Meaning a very bad experience. lairey. Should i leave the mixes open to breath or closed? i'm leaving them open for the time being. |
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Post by miltiades on Dec 12, 2014 21:48:54 GMT
Hello to all.
Hope you all getting ready for XMAS and New Year!
Trying to explain my method a bit and then the problem i'm facing. Any feedback much appreciated.
Method: As the aroma and the flavor i'm trying to recreate is complex and ingredients are dominant I've decided to create each flavor
separately and then mix it all together after finding the best possible flavor for each ingredient and then trying to mix those flavor into
one recreating the chemistry and balance that i wish to achieve.
So I've created a set of 16 different 60-40 vg/pg mixes (4 per each ingredient) separately trying to find the best balance per ingredient.
For each test i'm leaving the bottle open into a dark and warm place for 24 hours and then trying every day to see what happens.
The problem : For 5 days now i'm noticing a very chemical and sharp(but not pleasant) flavor.
You believe i'm doing something wrong? maybe the flavors aren't good (it seems unlikely to have 4 flavors from 2 different companies)?
Maybe the steeping process?
Many thanks in advance:)
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Post by miltiades on Dec 5, 2014 15:35:26 GMT
Thanks Perpetua , i will take that under strong consideration. |
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Post by miltiades on Dec 4, 2014 23:41:09 GMT
Cheers Lairey,chykensa...
Sure i will do , even if i'll had to spill 100 test samples in the Blackwater river...
Taraa! Kalinyhta
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Post by miltiades on Dec 4, 2014 23:08:30 GMT
chykensa - ah , it has been much better , had my time in the UK , from 93' to 2000 , at Pompey. Concerning Greek language as they say in my hometown. The first hundred years are difficult , then you learn
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Post by miltiades on Dec 4, 2014 22:57:50 GMT
Best of luck miltiades - haven't gone down the mil/rice route, but you've had some great advice above - let us know how it turns out! Thank you chykensa and all the guys here. You all saved me a lot of time. I hope i will contribute back with a recipe that originate from Greek islands |
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Post by miltiades on Dec 4, 2014 22:26:57 GMT
Many many thanks guys! i should solve the logistics now which is how to order as many as possible from 1-2 different eshops:) that's i guess more difficult from doing the recipe:)
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Post by miltiades on Dec 4, 2014 22:13:05 GMT
That seems a nice pick as well. I will certainly give it a try. Thanks Tom |
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Post by miltiades on Dec 4, 2014 22:07:47 GMT
I will try the British rice pudding flavour as well though it has a bit more ingredients. It's close , maybe trying tweaking a bit the british recipe to create a greek one...hm...
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Post by miltiades on Dec 4, 2014 21:59:01 GMT
Hello Welcome I aint got a scooby about rice or milk juices. Not sure if curry rice would be a nice vape?? Lol One of the magical mixers will be along lairey can u help?? Rice curry? just reminds me the indian family i used to live with while in the Uni. very nice guys , but the smell stays forever...  Just simple rice flavour i look for. Thought of trying to make an extract but rice is full of starch , couldn't work out any way... |
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Post by miltiades on Dec 4, 2014 21:54:14 GMT
Dairy Milk (check) One to go:) cheers Tom  |
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Post by miltiades on Dec 4, 2014 21:53:03 GMT
Many thanks igual, one of my favourite sweet dish , a type of rice pudding. I've found all the other ingredients except those two stated. |
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I would be happy to share a recipe i will like for myself first and i tend to be very picky lately after trying some liquids from Grizwald56
