When to reduce nic level?

[cakey87]

Hi everyone

Im only four days in to full time vaping, was on and off before xmas. im vaping 18mg at the minute and find im refilling twice a day using ce5s. I have a little left over on a night so in total vaping about 2.5 - 2.8mls of juice. Ive had a look online about nic absorption and i know its not certain but ive seen that 1ml of liquid is equivalent to 18mg is this correct? if so im a little worried im using too much and want to go down to 11 or 12mg. is it too soon? will I start craving again? I dont want to cut back on vaping because I just crave cigs and can honestly say these past few days have been plain sailing so far and its all due to vaping!

what do you recommend?

thanks

[cakey87]

forgot to add, Im ocassionally feeling a little light headed and 'buzzy' after a few hours of vaping which is why i looked into the nic absorption as I thought i might be over doing it!

[Perpetua]

Might be worth getting some lower flavour strengths in for when you want to ' chain vape ' Cakey . . . personally, I've no intention of reducing my nicotine intake, nor do I give a fig about how much juice I go through in a day.

My body tells me if I've gone a bit mad, so I just take a break from vaping/eat/drink something and away I go again.

Don't over analyze, otherwise you'll spoil the pleasure that vaping brings. IMO of course.

[cakey87]

I know your right perpetua but im a bugger for over analyzing everything! im one of those who worries when im not worried think i will get some lower and see how I go. thanks for your input perpetua

[Perpetua]

Waste of valuable vaping time over analyzing Cakey!

But, I would get some lower strengths, for when you feel like caning it a bit . . . .

[andy01424]

Cakey for some reason i get that way vaping RY4 at 24mg but not with others which is strange! as you said your just back into it 4 days your probably going through the Stinkie withdrawl still

you dont say what your on at the moment? i went down to 24mg after 2 weeks from 36mg now on 12 mg ,it really depends what is going to stop the cig craving ....

got some 36mg strawberry left a who hoo cloud 9 lol

[izan]

Buy a few bottles of 0 nic mixes of your favorites.
You can cut your existing liquid with as much or as little as you feel is needed.
I never intended to lower my nic level, but when I was unable to vape as much as I wanted to because the nic was getting to me (increased consumption, from about 3mls a day too 7ml on 1.1Ω RBA days), I did.
I cut in a bit of the 0 nic until I had a level that let me vape all day and NOT OD on Nic. Current .09%. 5.5ml average per day.

I

[djs]

Jan 5, 2013 23:07:56 GMT cakey87 said:

Hi everyone

Im only four days in to full time vaping, was on and off before xmas. im vaping 18mg at the minute and find im refilling twice a day using ce5s. I have a little left over on a night so in total vaping about 2.5 - 2.8mls of juice. Ive had a look online about nic absorption and i know its not certain but ive seen that 1ml of liquid is equivalent to 18mg is this correct? if so im a little worried im using too much and want to go down to 11 or 12mg. is it too soon? will I start craving again? I dont want to cut back on vaping because I just crave cigs and can honestly say these past few days have been plain sailing so far and its all due to vaping!

Hi cakey. If you are vaping 18mg, that means there is 18mg nicotine in 1ml of your e-liquid.

A tobacco cigarette (unsmoked) can contain 10mg of nicotine (quite easily) but you will only absorb around 1mg. When you search for nicotine for a specific brand (like marlboro lights for example) the amount will be the average nicotine "taken in" by your body, which will be under 1mg.
All fag packets have this printed on them by law.

Your liquid contains 18mg per 1ml, BUT if you vape 1ml, that won't be 18mg into your body. It will be less.

Actually the nicotine in the E-Liquid can not be absorbed completely by the vaper. For instance, if you inhale 1 ml of E-Liquid which contains 18 mg of nicotine, that does not mean that you absorb all the 18 mg of nicotine. You may only absorb about 40-65% of the nicotine according to your personal vaping habit.

So, in your case..... 2.5ml @ 18mg/ml = 45mg before vaping.

40% of 45mg is 18mg
65% of 45mg is 29mg

If you weren't smoking between these two numbers on fags, maybe have a re-think.

If you are getting overdose symptoms, either cut down on your nicotine or vape less.

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I took in 20mg of nicotine a day on fags.

I use about 2ml of high teens e-liquid. (16/18/20-ish) = approximately the same......

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Everyone is different, but it's worth doing the Maths.

I'd rather vape a little too often and a little too strong.......

Be careful how you go, but short term trust your instincts and body.

I tried dropping down to 10mg quite soon. It didn't work.

[chykensa]

I have managed to cut my nic levels to about 8-12mg overall in about 4 months, so after 4 days I would give it a good month before worrying too much about this!
By all means get soem lower level (8mg?) for those times when you are less stressed and want to vape a bit more, and keep the stronger stuff for high-stress times.
Andy

[chykensa]

Sorry to hijack this post but Isan, how do you get the ohm symbol in your post? Would love to be able to add that instead of typing ohm all the time!
Andy

[lazydog]

Ω there you are Andy just copy and paste it


as for lowering nic I tried and found I couldnt put it down and was getting nothing done so tried 45mg during the day and used it like the fags and use 24mg at night to chain vape but everyone is different.

[giles]

I wouldn't worry about getting more nic than you used to when smoking - just slow it down a bit if you start to buzz.

The trade association's analysis of what we know about how much nicotine we are getting per ml (or whatever) is here: www.eccauk.org/index.php/consumer-affairs/33-nicotine-equivalency-of-ecigarettes-vs-cigarettes.html

I currently vape zero-nic in the mornings, just because it irritates me that I am addicted to this stupid drug, not because I think it does me any harm. The rest of the time I vape at 18mg. Cutting it to 12 didn't help me - I just vaped more - but it might help you.

I didn't start the zero nic until I was 3 months in, and sure-fire certain I was never going to smoke again. I certainly wouldn't recommend you do anything like that for a good while yet.

[djs]

Very interesting Giles. Thanks.

I found this on their website (ECCA-UK)

If a carto contains enough e-liquid to provide about 6 cigarette's worth of vaping time, and equivalent satisfaction to a cigarette for those 6 instances, we could assume (rightly or wrongly) that about 6mg of nicotine ends up as available to the user.

I wonder if they (ECCA) have "members" that are advertising 40 cigarettes from one cartomiser/refill?

[lobeydosser]

It would appear that the folks on here that are cutting down their nic levels to zero are saying two things.

Firstly that by reducing their nic intake to nothing but continuing to vape, that the physical side of smoking is satisfied.

Secondly, that by vaping zero nic juice, that they do not need nicotine any more.

Personal experience of smoking for over 50 years and stoping smoking many times through just about every method under the sun, has taught me that the giving up smoking is the easy part. It is the staying stopped that is the really hard part.
This can be backed up by several studies done over the years about the high percentage of those that stop smoking but are back on to it within 2 years.
The last time I stopped, I was off smoking for 18 months.
I didn't want to start again, but when faced with a situation where I either smoked to calm myself down or ruined a family holiday, well a couple of packets of fags wouldn't harm me, now would it?
Wrong!

So while I applaud the efforts of those who are trying to stop smoking by vaping e-juices on an ever decreasing nicotine level, please be wary. This course of action will have to last at least two years, possibly longer.

Personally, as long as nicotine is the only harmful susbstance that I intake, that I am no longer coughing, stinking of cig smoke and generally worried that I may set fire to myself or my house, then I will vape my way to Valhalla on my 25mg juice and forget that I ever attempted to do the impossible, for me, and tried to quit smoking.

[hifistud]

+1 with knobs and bells and whistles on. If nicotine had always been delivered in nice mugs with a fothy top, nobody would ever have had anything to say about "cutting down". If you aren't burning tobacco, that's all you need to worry about.

Jan 6, 2013 12:04:08 GMT lobeydosser said:

It would appear that the folks on here that are cutting down their nic levels to zero are saying two things.

Firstly that by reducing their nic intake to nothing but continuing to vape, that the physical side of smoking is satisfied.

Secondly, that by vaping zero nic juice, that they do not need nicotine any more.

Personal experience of smoking for over 50 years and stoping smoking many times through just about every method under the sun, has taught me that the giving up smoking is the easy part. It is the staying stopped that is the really hard part.
This can be backed up by several studies done over the years about the high percentage of those that stop smoking but are back on to it within 2 years.
The last time I stopped, I was off smoking for 18 months.
I didn't want to start again, but when faced with a situation where I either smoked to calm myself down or ruined a family holiday, well a couple of packets of fags wouldn't harm me, now would it?
Wrong!

So while I applaud the efforts of those who are trying to stop smoking by vaping e-juices on an ever decreasing nicotine level, please be wary. This course of action will have to last at least two years, possibly longer.

Personally, as long as nicotine is the only harmful susbstance that I intake, that I am no longer coughing, stinking of cig smoke and generally worried that I may set fire to myself or my house, then I will vape my way to Valhalla on my 25mg juice and forget that I ever attempted to do the impossible, for me, and tried to quit smoking.