RBA's?

[stu1873]

I have taken stock of my collection over the weekend and was pretty shocked with the amount of Clearo's i have. So to counter this problem i am now looking at trying some RBA's but i am a bit puzzled as what to buy.

I bought a Did from Vapourbreak and could not for the life of me get it to work but i am not sure if it was the quality of the product that was the problem. I am willing to give a s/s wick setup another go but not on the did.

I have seen loads of name's of stuff on the site like the Russian, ithaka, kayfun, terminator, Rocket, Oddy ,RSST, AGA, ATTY etc.  There are just too much for me to get my head around what good. I am also confused about res - non res setups too and what models use this setup.

Of the styles i have seen i would like to try a decent but affordable S/S wick setup like the did and one with a silica wick kayfun feeding system.

[OneDay]

Stu res /non res is only used in a specific few attys, mainly Greek origin and their clones, such as the Oddy, Penelope and Ikatha. I've not had much luck with SS so I steer away from it, but the RSST gets the best reviews of this type. For a silica atty I'd go for one of the Kayfuns.

[stu1873]

Cheers Oneday i think i will try the RSST for the SS one but will keep researching for a silica one. Need to read up on why the res / non res is required for some of them and what it's all about?

[giles]

Basically the idea of no-res is that if your atty has much of a length of wire leading up to the coil then that length should be no-res, otherwise you are heating naked wire (with no juice on it) which spoils the taste somewhat. Also, of course, you are wasting power. The coil is of course made of res wire.

I got a Nautilus recently - many thanks to feldy - which uses res & no-res wire. I'd recommend it, but it isn't cheap. Its main advantage is that you can adjust the air flow. The basic model has a stainless steel tank which personally I don't like much because you can't see where your juice flow control is at (or, of course, how much juice you have left). And it isn't huge. So I've ordered an extension and clear tank, which cost me more than the Nautilus. Also you need a method of joining res & no-res wire. Scott's video says you can do it by twisting them together, but that just didn't work for me - the res wire is much thinner and bends round the no-res wire without the no-res wire bending at all (maybe he has different wire) so the res wire just slides along the no-res. I use the little silver crimps (500 for £2), but some people buy a zapper.

The iclear heads come with no-res wire leading up to the coil. I've spent the last couple of hours working out how to recoil one using no-res (basically it isn't worth the bother, but I'll do a post describing how I did it sometime). I had previously done it with just res wire, like a Nova (much easier), and was hoping it wouldn't taste any better with the no-res, but unfortunately I have to report that it does taste better.

I also bought a cheap clone to try with mesh and I liked the taste with mesh but hated the device. Magsvape is selling me an Aga T2 with glass tank which I hope I'll get on with better.

[stu1873]

Thanks for that giles. I now understand about res / no res coils

[Perpetua]

Billy at Grey Haze currently has a pre-order for an excellent clone of the GG Odysseus Stu . . .

greyhaze.co.uk/products/terminator-c-rba-long-mod

He does also stock the ready wires, although is currently sold out . . .

greyhaze.co.uk/products/no-resistence-to-resistence-coil-wire-ready-made

Or you could take a look at the GG Clones that Vapor Freak stock and many of us have bought . . .


www.vapor-freak.de/zubehoer/Nautilus-V2-SW


www.vapor-freak.de/zubehoer/Euforia-SW


www.vapor-freak.de/zubehoer/Hercules-SW

[testdruif]

Hey Stu,

I've had my fair chair of dealing with RBA's and tried a few of the popular "cheap" ones out there. (the whole aga range and then some).
If you want something "affordable" (20-30 pound range vs 50-100 pound range) and entry level, I would recommend the AGA T+ or the AGA T2.
You'll have all the parts you need (RBA, some silica wick, ss wick, wires) to start building a coil and a glass (pyrex) tank which won't break down so easy.

www.vapingthings.com/AGA-T2b2c_T2_CLEAR_TANKED_OR_FLAMED_GLASS2c_REBUILDABLE_ATOMISER/p1311952_8181000.aspx

There are a lot of great topics on here about how to build a ss wick and a coil around it and believe you me, you'll spend a few hours and a number of coils before you get it right
But once you get it right the first few times it magically almost always works out great ^^

[womble]

The RSST is really a well made and well designed bit of kit. It's also forgiving for novice SS wick builders due to the insulated wick hole.

Use one with a SS rope (wrapped in SS mesh where the coil sits) and it's amazing, never a dry hit. Very much recommended, since I started using one this way, I haven't even bothered trying anything else.

[markm]

An insulated wick hole makes a world of difference for the novice.
The RSST is the cheapest option out there, just be careful to adjust the
510 positive pin/centre post before you build your coil, its very easy to
Damage the pos connection on your battery/mod if you forget.

[markm]

An option for silica setup would be a dripping atty, there are lots of
Very reasonably priced ones about, many with dual wick options.

[inigomontoya]

I bought the other AGA-T2 going the other day. Hoping it won't be too much hassle - I was debating between it and an AGT as I can get a good price on those.

In terms of the wick hole - is there a way to insulate them? silicone grommet or something? Gonna try basic silica and ekowool then SS.

[testdruif]

Aug 20, 2013 8:33:45 GMT inigomontoya said:

I bought the other AGA-T2 going the other day. Hoping it won't be too much hassle - I was debating between it and an AGT as I can get a good price on those.

In terms of the wick hole - is there a way to insulate them? silicone grommet or something? Gonna try basic silica and ekowool then SS.

Hey Inigomontaya,

Don't know of any way of insulating the wick hole (it's not that big so you can't put a rubber inside of it).
Maybe you could coat the ss wick with some shrink wrap?
I've been using the aga-T, aga-T2 etc for over a year now and must say that only in the beginning I had some issues with the ss wick being a bit too conductive.

[Roscopecotrain]

Genuine Smoktech Rsst on fasttech now for £16.39 making it a bargain.
www.fasttech.com/products/1428620

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2

[inigomontoya]

Aug 20, 2013 8:39:40 GMT testdruif said:

Don't know of any way of insulating the wick hole (it's not that big so you can't put a rubber inside of it).
Maybe you could coat the ss wick with some shrink wrap?
I've been using the aga-T, aga-T2 etc for over a year now and must say that only in the beginning I had some issues with the ss wick being a bit too conductive.

Good to know. Maybe a tiny bit of electrical tape in the crucial area? I even have some plasti-dip lying around, which I might thin down. (can be thinned to 'paint' on - tiniest ring on contact could sort it out a treat and be less fiddly than tape with monster truck hands)

[testdruif]

Aug 20, 2013 8:51:48 GMT inigomontoya said:

Aug 20, 2013 8:39:40 GMT testdruif said:

Don't know of any way of insulating the wick hole (it's not that big so you can't put a rubber inside of it).
Maybe you could coat the ss wick with some shrink wrap?
I've been using the aga-T, aga-T2 etc for over a year now and must say that only in the beginning I had some issues with the ss wick being a bit too conductive.

Good to know. Maybe a tiny bit of electrical tape in the crucial area? I even have some plasti-dip lying around, which I might thin down. (can be thinned to 'paint' on - tiniest ring on contact could sort it out a treat and be less fiddly than tape with monster truck hands)

Do take into account that the area around the wick hole will be getting very hot. So I would avoid anything that melts or reacts badly with heat ^^