Caravans/holiday homes

[Yorkshireman]

Not been on for a while as i have been moving out of my family home due to my marriage breaking down,i went to stay with a friend for a few days in his holiday home and i loved it,i loved the park,the peace and quite and the people but i could not afford to buy a new one and you can't put older ones on the 12 month site.Does anyone know of anybody who rents one out long term as i would love to live in one.I know a few days does not make a lifetime but the way they are built now they are a home from home,cheers.

[Deleted]

The British Holiday Parks and Holiday Homes Association state the rules for site owners.Google them and Google Residential caravan Parks.It is all down to the council giving park owners a site license.

Some areas of the country are more relaxed,allowing occupancy for 10 months of the year on the same pitch..technically all you would have to do is swap for a month into your next door neighbours caravan/park home,thus not occupying the same pitch for more than the agreed site terms.
Some parks shut down over winter for refurbishment,you'd have to google the above.
It is a brilliant way of life.Good luck

[DiscoDes]

Good Luck Yorkshireman

[Yorkshireman]

My mates park has 9/11 and 12 month licenses and there are plenty who live there all year.

[halight]

You can find sites that allows older ones on. They are about.
Some sites are 12month others 10 months. All depends on council.if you live there for 12 months of the year you will have to pay council tax plus the ground rent. Might be something to keep in mind when working out costs.

[Perpetua]

So pleased to hear that a few days away gave you some much needed peace and time to think Yorkshireman.

lobeydosser does a lot of touring, he might also be able to offer some advice as well.

[andy01424]

Can agree with Yorky i lived in one for 18 months okay look like a tin shed from out side but once in cosy and peaceful,when it rains[except storms] pitter patter on roof gently makes you nod off!! down side winter ,got so cold one year woke up went to pull curtains,net and curtains were stuck on inside with ice lol

Best way to find out Yorky is if it has a club house get to know locals there and find out they usually know who rents

Downside -as of next year theres a rule change!! any caravan owner who does not have a perm residential address[ ie brick and mortar] is going to be liable for Band A Council Tax as this is then classed as a perm living address---- they all ready do this on Canal boats moored permantly

[lobeydosser]

The sites that I use are basically "Touring Sites" and on these the maximum stay is 28 days.

Then there are "Static Sites" and the local government licence these and stipulate how long they can be used for;- IE how many months per year and at what times of the year they must be closed for.
Our local one is only closed for February.

Then there is "Residential Sites", usually an area within a Static Site and in that area you will find "Park Homes".
Park Homes are where people live in these all year round.
They pay Council Tax and Ground Rent, although the Ground Rent is usually less than would be charged for a Static Van and the rules governing Park Homes are very different from those of a Static Van.

With a Park Home, the owner has more rights than the owner of a Static Van and the Caravan Park Owner has to negotiate with Park Home Owners if he wishes to change any rules that may concern them.
With Static Vans the Caravan Park Owner can change the rules at any time and you are really at his mercy. However, like any business, why would he if he is making money.

People who site their Static on any site are not supposed to "sub let" although some do and some Caravan Site Owners turn a blind eye to this practise.

So whilst I wish you luck on finding suitable accommodation, I cannot really advise you on where you should look.

[Yorkshireman]

I never knew there was so many caravan sites,wow.

[Yorkshireman]

Just out of interest does anyone here have a static caravan,i have found many sites that now have 12 month occupancy but you have to a permanent residence so no council tax is paid on the static,some sites include rates or water and others electric etc,there is obviously a difference in the site fees,others include free siting and connection,gas tests etc.I have also been advised to drain down if i do leave the van over winter and there are different charges for this although i do not think i will be away from it that long.It sounds like munkymunky has experience and i just wondered if any other owners could give me info on there sites if there are any,i am really struggling at my parents,they have done everything to make me welcome but i need my own space quickly,cheers all.

[cdurkin100]

We own a static caravan on the Haven site at Lakeland near Grange Over Sands. Site fees are expensive at 5k a year, mainly due to the location we are in. On top of that you have separate water, gas and waste charges as ours is plumbed into the mains. Altogether we are talking 5.5k a year, so not cheap by any means. Our site closes in January and February and reopens on the 1st of March. During winter months from December we have our van drained down, it's a must for the insurance policy. The good thing about our site is no restrictions on the age of the caravan, if there had been we would never have bought it. Good luck for the future.

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[andy01424]

Jun 27, 2014 10:08:22 GMT Yorkshireman said:

Just out of interest does anyone here have a static caravan,i have found many sites that now have 12 month occupancy but you have to a permanent residence so no council tax is paid on the static,some sites include rates or water and others electric etc,there is obviously a difference in the site fees,others include free siting and connection,gas tests etc.I have also been advised to drain down if i do leave the van over winter and there are different charges for this although i do not think i will be away from it that long.It sounds like munkymunky has experience and i just wondered if any other owners could give me info on there sites if there are any,i am really struggling at my parents,they have done everything to make me welcome but i need my own space quickly,cheers all.

every site is different one i was on include water and waste-elec billed seperately but they turned out to be a joke as they split it among whole site so some got bills for £60 for yr lol

Rentals what you pay should inc everything except gas:

As for drain downs why people pay for it to be done is beyond me,its so simple

Turn water off at mains line ,open taps for any pressure,disconnect water main Caravan side of stop cock, flush all toilets,open all taps and showers,then right under boiler out side is 2 drain screws,undo and drain,then in washbasins toilets,shower put antifeeze in drains and cistern [if any water left],then have a large bag of rock salt and fill half way in breakfast bowls and place in all rooms of static[ helps with condensation] go back middle of shut down drain or replace salt bowls

price an hour maybe of your time and maybe £15,they used to charge £80 to do this on old site i was on

[andy01424]

oh and Yorkie,if you buying one, dont get caught on you have to buy there site insurance for your caravan,you dont,sites got there knuckles wrapped for insisting on it and being a must,get a seperate one,guy called Adrian Flux does it i think still;

Also i know a pain being mid yr,but most will offer free yr[season] site fees on buying,but catch this season has started season so only get upto 6months if got one now

[Yorkshireman]

Brilliant info Andy thanks,cdurkin that is one hefty site fee for 10 months,i thought my mates was expensive at £3100 for 11 months,i suppose you get what you pay for though.