MVP II broken and need an Alternative

[Montana]

After a month have got a problem with my pin either dropping or the O-ring has already fallen apart.When I put my Protank II on and it connects it's still loose and wobbles every so slighty , but if I screw it down any further then I get "NON" on the screen.The only way I have found to get around this is by screwing the tank down till it just connects then unscrewing the beauty ring until it locks against the tank , but it's fiddly and I have to mess around every time I need to fill the tank.I'm currently using the MVP to check my EVOD rebuilds for ohm's and doing a lot of flavour tasting so I guess I'm taking on and off tanks and bases quite often , but even so , 1 month and it's failing, not really impressed to be honest.

So, as the title suggests what could I get , that would be a good replacement ?  I had thought of getting the VTR but I've seen quite a few problems with them on here to.The reason I was going to get VTR was the different connection ( not having an ego style , just the 510 ) and I don't want to go down the mech mod route as I don't know anything about them really.I've seen a lot of good things about the Provari but they are over 4 times the price, so I would expect so and that's without 2 batteries , charger and a EGO adapter and only VW.Also looked at the Vamo but they seem to have thread issues too.

So, I really seem to be a bit stuck , or so I thought.After having this thread just sit for a while before I posted , I have just watched the Phil Busardo review of the Sigelei 20W and what I saw was very interesting , first , a sprung loaded centre pin , brilliant , why doesn't every one do this ? The scope reading are very good especially at the kind of Watts and ohm's I vape at ( normally about 7-7.5W @ 1.5-2.2Ohms ) is this a good choice ? OR is there something else out there which I haven't seen, as my only reservation is not having a step down which pushed up the wattage.

Perhaps I've read to much and got confused over everything , so let me know.

Andy

[babs]

Sorry can't advise about an alternative but after only one month the MVP should still be good if you got it from a reputable supplier I would contact them.

[lisburnvapes]

If it's just the provari style you're wanting then I seen a member on here had purchased a provari clone, Perpetua maybe ? She may be able to tell you her opinion of it

[Montana]

Jul 6, 2014 10:40:49 GMT lisburnvapes said:

If it's just the provari style you're wanting then I seen a member on here had purchased a provari clone, Perpetua maybe ? She may be able to tell you her opinion of it

It's not really the Provari STYLE I want it's the build quality.People have mentioned how good these are built etc etc etc. The couple of things that put me off is a) the screen look- looks like an old calculator , not very good for a MOD of this price range ,   b) The price - as mentioned above it's way higher than other vv devices out there , even some DNA30 Mods ,  c) VV only , I would like to have seen , especially by now a VW version OR a new device with VW in as standard.

I'm just a little wary of the NO step down feature of the Sigelei 20W, like I said, have I missed another VV or VW device ?

Andy

[toots]

Well Montana I have the VTR and mine works perfectly. I haven't had any problems with it whatsoever, and I absolutely loooooooove it.

I have had mine for 6 months now, and I would recommend it to anyone & everyone

[Montana]

One other thing that forgot to mention about the Sigelei 20W is and unfortunately it's a downside is the fact is starts at 7W , I would have preferred it to start at something lower like 5.5-6W.

I know it's only a minor thing, but at the moment I seem to prefer the cooler vape, that may change with time , better kit ( tanks and juices etc ) or may tastes change , just thought that I would mention that.

Andy

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Sorry to hear of your troubles Montana but it is an all too familiar story with the MVP. I have three, a version 1 which has never given any trouble and two version 2.0, one of which I have changed the grommet on the centre pin four times. As a replacement, well that's a minefield and obviously going to be your own choice. I have an SVD which I know is not everybody's cup of tea but for the £22 I paid for it I have no complaints about it. I have a friend who has a Vamo and the threads were wrecked after six weeks but he purchased a new top cap from stealthvape for about £6/7 and it has never given him any trouble since. As you already know with a Provari, Vamo, Svd, Sigelei etc you will have the added expense of batteries and a charger if you don't already have these. Sorry I can't give you a definitive answer in your quest for a new device, I think you just have to bite the bullet and buy one. If you buy one then find out its just doesn't suit you then you can always sell it on in the classies here, knowing if you don't pay a fortune then you won't loss much out it and can try another device. The only recommendation I can give you is to purchase a stand alone ohm checker to prevent excess wear on the centre pin on whatever you buy, you can pick one up for around £5. Good luck with whatever you decide to purchase.

[Montana]

Jul 6, 2014 11:57:06 GMT striker42 said:

The only recommendation I can give you is to purchase a stand alone ohm checker to prevent excess wear on the centre pin on whatever you buy, you can pick one up for around £5. Good luck with whatever you decide to purchase.

When I do, and it's going to be soon , lol , I will be getting a separate ohm checker.

IF I had the facilities I would know exactly what to make and from what parts and the right software changes too, just a pity I'm not ,  .

As you said I'm just going to have to bite the bullet and get one of the choices, but I'll probably chop and change 50 times before I get one.

Andy

[Perpetua]

Jul 6, 2014 10:40:49 GMT lisburnvapes said:

If it's just the provari style you're wanting then I seen a member on here had purchased a provari clone, Perpetua maybe ? She may be able to tell you her opinion of it

I have indeed . . . though it's not quite a Provari, but a very close second though.

However in Montana's shoes I'd be contacting my Vendor and then perhaps looking at a Zmax:

myepack.co.uk/mods/sigelei-zmax-v5-full-kit-ss.html

Or a Vamo V5 maybe, I still have a high opinion of them got to say. Not quite China prices - but not bad:

www.vapershed.com/department/e-cigarette-mods-vamo-v5

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Jul 6, 2014 12:44:03 GMT Perpetua said:

Jul 6, 2014 10:40:49 GMT lisburnvapes said:

If it's just the provari style you're wanting then I seen a member on here had purchased a provari clone, Perpetua maybe ? She may be able to tell you her opinion of it

I have indeed . . . though it's not quite a Provari, but a very close second though.

However in Montana's shoes I'd be contacting my Vendor and then perhaps looking at a Zmax:

myepack.co.uk/mods/sigelei-zmax-v5-full-kit-ss.html

Or a Vamo V5 maybe, I still have a high opinion of them got to say. Not quite China prices - but not bad:

www.vapershed.com/department/e-cigarette-mods-vamo-v5

The Zmax kit looks like a good deal Perpetua. Did consider a Zmax myself but pulled the trigger on a Jimmy Jack that romney had in the classies a couple of weeks ago. It might not be a Provari or an expensive high end device but its well made and a damn good vape. Would highly recommend it to anyone who is thinking of buying one.

[Montana]

After much fiddling and trying different things I've come to a conclusion that was a bit of a surprise to me.

What is it I hear you ask, and the conclusion is that the Protank II with or without the airflow base is a pin pusher.The Protank II is now doing the same thing to my Vision spinner as well.I can't screw it down so it stays tight enough for it not to come loose easily.Again I have to screw the tank down so it will connect ( but it's still quite wobbly ) and then unscrew the beauty ring up to the bottom of the tank so it tightens up.

I don't know what to be more disappointed with , the mod for the pin to move in a month or the tank to push the pin so I get battery warnings.I was just wondering if anyone else has had this with any of their tank or atty's ?? That's why when I saw the review of the Sigelei 20W I really liked the idea idea of the sprung loaded pin, so it can't get pushed and any tank SHOULD ( in theory ) fit with no problems and the tank won't come loose and no fiddling with beauty rings to keep the tank secure.

I think ALL mods should come with sprung loaded pins and my reason for this is , when people ( and sometimes through no fault of their own ) they get a NON genuine product and sometimes ( In my case ) a genuine product that MAY cause pin problems this won't happen.Then the tank whether it's a EGO or a 510 fitting will just sit nicely on the MOD or battery.The only way then to damage a battery or Mod would be stripping the threads, and even as heavy handed as I can be this would be a lot less likely to happen.

I hope the above has made sense and wasn't to confusing.

So , are there any other batteries or more importantly Mods that have sprung loaded pins other than the Sigelei 20W ??

Andy

 

[londongemini]

Just my 2ps worth. My vamo (myepack) lasted about 6 weeks before the threads died. The 2nd from fasttech lasted a little longer before its threads died. Next, my svd (myepack) lasted a couple of months before the power button started to play up which apparently a common problem so now I have switched to a nemesis clone and kick and I couldn't be happier. It's much much smaller and better built than its predecessor's and hasn't skipped a beat.

If I was to buy one now, I would either get a zmax or one of the new vamos with ss threads. Or I would get a airflow adaptor to save the threads.

Either way, keep up with vaping and don't get tempted to go back to the smellies!

[Perpetua]

I think I must have been remarkably lucky, as I'm not especially careful - though I never overtighten anything and keep the threads juice free. But I can put my hand on my heart and say that out of all the devices I've bought and owned and they have been many as the Lord knows.

But I've only ever borked one of them, where juice had seeped into the gubbins - but that was after 2 years of everyday use. So I certainly couldn't complain about that.

[Ripshod]

Remarkably, I've just posted in 'TT&T' regarding overtightening.

[GunJack]

I ALWAYS use an ego thread cover on my vamos when using a 510 connected device like a protank, and as you mentioned earlier Montana - been doing this from the beginning with these two bits of kit, as soon as I put the pt on the vamo and saw how much of the 510 connector was exposed.

There is nothing wrong with doing this at all, and does give the atty a solid base to sit on. It also prevents you from over-tightening the atty down on the pin. Get a cheap multimeter to check your coils (£5 or less off ebay) to save your mod threads and do other things too